Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.93]) by air-me05.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINME054-8bb34b8f5ca62f; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 02:09:26 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-db09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DC779380000D5; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:09:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nn59u-0000f8-0e for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:07:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nn59t-0000ez-Cp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:07:45 +0000 Received: from web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.126]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nn59t-0004e6-1U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 07:07:45 +0000 Received: (qmail 92985 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Mar 2010 07:07:39 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1267686459; bh=ZjLLLhXHznhinMlC0qUDSA/cdnLWj94dF2J2ZKpV29o=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=S7PCsa8CaepzBfYiA1OEaCyV8xG1slzboZNwbF0XFdKdlbmq/oYzwgFeoVUqkVYevv8WeaDREZsPTsyURzkTdBZj4Yf4N9eEEAICG74g7rDIKlvR6T+5RDtNpme229YCJz2WTzazMngR97j6pzXUaySxYxBy0IKKO2R3XylBxbw= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=BvhSWmQYPjOR5iS2mh7HgocjhrNYbOqLTq8ItT6SGLu2NvEW5Y3F6Ur43p5X1OYk0YuRUAxPaC4IFdiGB0W7d99CeD+Qqy/5faNvLdWhkCCF5IsBLxHrlaBJW9YeAXDsG4d7u0wVxAQ4n91ClRPj0twB8kCxBHd1RZF9y9lzSmc=; Message-ID: <60699.92482.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: B.ajwV0VM1kg2aPVdeCpw7z3uAimL4Xt_JVAA1Azr_cQFErcsqBTcDDj5rL0p37l3ayWqvYU2SMza74CDCQPDfGYGItNGJsIfZ6.ellvQOOT4taoswKJfE8DVb_eKrWHcVLIF04wQSFp9LoT61q9q2zsRtfqRYv0Kf6qyDuDTjB3jzlQm3vqYyRfhphEKNw3i8zuYE.3HeIdvEQZlRRD7syG.9BSKRiCmX44M0h9L3gUFo6ikkgp4gLxS.kEf8UDgJIEA60oJJ6By4JMg4ATrUO5w2ay9Kfd4SrHrrMfyRYo0B.sgWYb Received: from [86.143.244.65] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 03 Mar 2010 23:07:38 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 23:07:38 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20712767.393458.1267608753646.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb077> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: 9kHz: soundcard RX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1662787395-1267686458=:92482" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d225.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405d4b8f5ca47604 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --0-1662787395-1267686458=:92482 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable never blown a sound card up yet in over almost ten years of use. Two back= to back diodes on the antenna lead close to the input plug. Don't leave= it connected during thunderstorms. Most modems are left connected day and= night to very very long over head telephone wires for years with out prob= lems. Vastly over hyped problem. 73 es GL petefmt --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Horst St=F6cker wrote: From: Horst St=F6cker Subject: LF: 9kHz: soundcard RX To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 3 March, 2010, 9:32 >And what about a simple band pass filter to supress the 50Hz and it's har= monics? Necessary or dispensable? You can hear (!) the difference. I just took a 10mH coil from Reichelt to= improve my soundcard-RX before one of the last SAQ activities. Despite of more or less excellent digital filtering of SpecLab it's a good= idea. One should not keep the soundcard busy with unwanted signals. What I am not sure about is the use of an audio transformer. It might have= some influence to the signal. As it just has to keep the soundcard from= beeing blown it might be a good idea to take a cheap soundcard instead of= the audio transformer - and maybe a second in spare. Stefan, what USB-soundcard you bought for 10 EUR ? Horst DO1KHS ___________________________________________________________ GRATIS f=FCr alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de =20 --0-1662787395-1267686458=:92482 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
never blown a sound card up yet in over alm= ost ten years of use. Two back to back diodes on the antenna lead close to= the input plug. Don't leave it connected during thunderstorms. Most modem= s are left connected day and night to very very long over head telephone= wires for years with out problems. Vastly over hyped problem.

73= es GL petefmt

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Horst St=F6cker <horst.= stoecker@web.de> wrote:

From: Horst St=F6cker <horst.stoecker@web.d= e>
Subject: LF: 9kHz: soundcard RX
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.o= rg
Date: Wednesday, 3 March, 2010, 9:32

>And what about a simple band pass filter to sup= ress the 50Hz and it's harmonics? Necessary or dispensable?

You can= hear (!) the difference. I just took a 10mH coil from Reichelt to improve= my soundcard-RX before one of the last SAQ activities.

Despite of= more or less excellent digital filtering of SpecLab it's a good idea. One= should not keep the soundcard busy with unwanted signals.

What I= am not sure about is the use of an audio transformer. It might have some= influence to the signal. As it just has to keep the soundcard from beeing= blown it might be a good idea to take a cheap soundcard instead of the au= dio transformer - and maybe a second in spare.

Stefan, what USB-sou= ndcard you bought for 10 EUR ?

Horst DO1KHS
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