Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.215]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMB071-a7844b903041363; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 17:12:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-df03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 238FF3800015A; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:12:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NnJFr-0002qT-7z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:10:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NnJFq-0002qK-Np for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:10:50 +0000 Received: from web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.123]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NnJFq-0002V2-Il for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:10:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 58357 invoked by uid 60001); 4 Mar 2010 22:10:44 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1267740644; bh=abNlXvXSEJVqDAi1+3j1Xvj8xFFmsatjDsR5xViub/U=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=JxcmRMBeQ8kcDtL4DFfaUXvYX975Cg5Wfw8fYJc1sElaS2IVRVw/uNil79o/v8+a/IwN0wXnGgJHFZDvG00a39gmra9oidY0XYGjMGtRbwbO4nFVVb4nFOKFWch8tnK7SM8EMNdF863+qbQzF8g1NuuzrHgdIKQKN4UTgyMVaL4= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NZAEOYn10Ygkw7YjcRFgH/F8br5tTipQACynrGuF+oOK6vS0hj4bdjsldxKtjG2moYgYxEhDH0afq7iuf99UT1oBiAoUFcYqyTYPeIovi5cxDlRZ6hsPAbBHk0Mqhw5UJ6ASfBstVQZQWQM5UClaY9uVsyTAN6Klb2stYXzZnnE=; Message-ID: <526233.56318.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: PaY0BAIVM1l1kg3pEgBYLmJXG6SYPuN_Mx.EL_AqaRtTqde HwjpyuZ7syYUhsOEUmW_E.WAaryRJC0.QMZ5ysaDh26VdVs_u7vqrcXAb3tv E0s6QR74lY7vh9o.eCMjmDrF64mYZ6usW.O.u_h1Mle_rFyfLgYbmfx8zH2I yGuOOYYbb0cqmsriJAr5jLxL1tGrjJ_GGQpuxXXldgqFVkZWYMUcbvUeCeJv 3pBzyjAT0s5R1Bc0ElUbiIkEHnBdp1QbYYQaTVNZpP5HQi14- Received: from [86.143.244.65] by web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:10:44 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:10:44 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: VLF WEB SDR Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-980355406-1267740644=:56318" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m246.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d74b9030405251 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --0-980355406-1267740644=:56318 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan =A0I agree ..... The Alpha nav beacons are much stronger here than indicated on Web SDR. Al= so the Mil data signals between abt 18.5 and 24kc/s are very much stronger= here also. I agree it looks like they have a very poor antenna attached. Here, most of the time=A0I use=A0Winrad SDR application with a strapped 80= m dipole up abt 13m=A0fed into the SC mic socket and get very strong signa= ls on that part of the band. =A0 However the WEBSDR is a very useful resource for doing tests=A0on MF/LF. =A0 No activity on the Dreamers band owing to pressing domestic commitments fo= r=A0at least the=A0next week. 73 es GL petefmt --- On Thu, 4/3/10, Roelof Bakker wrote: From: Roelof Bakker Subject: Re: LF: VLF WEB SDR To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thursday, 4 March, 2010, 15:56 Hello Stefan, The answer is simple: the reception antenna is not working properly or the= signals are masked by a high noise floor. When you look at the station on= 18.3 kHz, it is quite weak. I have these at -62 dBm, whilst the Alpha stations are 40 dB weaker. So no chance to spot these, I guess. 73, Roelof, pa0rdt =20 --0-980355406-1267740644=:56318 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan
 I agree .....
The Alpha nav beacons are much stronger here than indica= ted on Web SDR. Also the Mil data signals between abt 18.5 and 24kc/s are= very much stronger here also. I agree it looks like they have a very poor= antenna attached.
Here, most of the time I use Winrad SDR application with a= strapped 80m dipole up abt 13m fed into the SC mic socket and get ve= ry strong signals on that part of the band.
 
However the WEBSDR is a very useful resource for doing= tests on MF/LF.
 
No activity on the Dreamers band owing to pressing domes= tic commitments for at least the next week.

73 es GL petefmt

--- On Thu, 4/3/10, Roelof Bakker &= lt;roelof@ndb.demon.nl> wrote:

From: Roelof Bakker <roelof@ndb.demon.nl>= ;
Subject: Re: LF: VLF WEB SDR
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
D= ate: Thursday, 4 March, 2010, 15:56

Hello Stefan,

The answer is simple: the rece= ption antenna is not working properly or the signals are masked by a high= noise floor. When you look at the station on 18.3 kHz, it is quite weak.<= BR>
I have these at -62 dBm, whilst the Alpha stations are 40 dB weaker= .
So no chance to spot these, I guess.

73,
Roelof, pa0rdt
=

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