Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.10]) by air-mc04.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMC044-a9324ba35bdc3a2; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:11:24 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dg02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 10B2038000111; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 07:11:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nsa6A-0005HD-GR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:10:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nsa6A-0005H1-3M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:10:38 +0000 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nsa67-0003PA-AG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:10:37 +0000 Received: from abelian.netcom.co.uk (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B0E327897 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:07:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abelian.netcom.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o2JBARQr021490 for ; Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:10:28 GMT Message-ID: <4BA35BA3.9090105@abelian.org> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:10:27 +0000 From: Paul Nicholson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4BA0A501.5050506@abelian.org> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B66@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4BA3187E.9010801@abelian.org> <005c01cac74b$ef5d3c60$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> In-Reply-To: <005c01cac74b$ef5d3c60$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: VLF: TA, 300m and new PA? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410a4ba35bda0eb6 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > What do you consider suitable? In order to squeeze out the maximum S/N, it looks like a loop antenna is desirable in order to null as much background noise as possible. It must 'see' down to the natural VLF background, so a basic sensitivity of say better than 5fT in 1Hz is required. Then the floor should be dominated by the natural background. This doesn't seem too demanding at 9kHz and it looks like people are having some success with resonant antennas connected straight into the soundcard! A pre-amp would enable a smaller loop to be used which increases options for locating the antenna in a quiet spot. Transformer isolation may be necessary to remove ground- looped interference - even if the loop is balanced. Sampling needs to be stable to better than 0.01Hz, which may be a problem for low grade soundcards, especially if timing is based on ceramic resonators rather than xtal. Spectrum Lab contains tools for doing the initial conversion rate calibration and also for making continuous correction during reception by using a reference signal. It is important that the signal stays more or less within one bin during the test. It is worth also discarding the 5% or so of signal that contains the strongest sferics. May be worth recording the test raw and post-processing to try various settings for blanking and frequency binning. If the signal crosses the Atlantic, it may be right on the edge of detectability. We used a pessimistic model for the previous test and the signal was larger than expected. But now we are probably using an optimistic model. Therefore luck cannot be invoked and it is down to skill, ingenuity, and probably patience too - a long integration will be needed! -- Paul Nicholson --