Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.205]) by air-di04.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDI043-eac44b9fe4bd350; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:06:23 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-de05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EE677380000A3; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 16:06:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nrd1D-0007C8-81 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:05:35 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nrd1C-0007Bz-Rp for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:05:34 +0000 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nrd1A-0006QR-50 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:05:34 +0000 Received: from abelian.netcom.co.uk (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 529F432783E for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:02:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abelian.netcom.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o2GK5NZZ024748 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:05:24 GMT Message-ID: <4B9FE483.8020806@abelian.org> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:05:23 +0000 From: Paul Nicholson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001cac47a$f4ba1350$0202a8c0@laptopcore2> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B57@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4B9F82C9.3000301@abelian.org> <4B9FB3F5.6030707@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4B9FB3F5.6030707@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: DK7FC's 2nd VLF TX test... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40cd4b9fe4ba1efd X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Stefan schrieb: > Paul, do you have ideas to even improve your RX or are > you at the limit? :-) I have already used every trick possible - the rx sensitivity at 9kHz is as good as it can be. I can think of no electronics or signal processing that will make further significant improvement. It is just fine tuning now... The only way forward is to combine the outputs of multiple receivers. For example, a fellow VLF enthusiast lives just over a wavelength south of me. By combining coherently the outputs of the two receivers, a narrower beam can be synthesised. Adding further receivers into the network gains further. This would have to be the next step. Thanks for the info on the DDS VFO, now I recall you mentioned it in an earlier post. I wondered whether it would do FSK. The QRSS mode is very poor, a most inefficient use of the channel capacity - literally a waste of time. Dual frequency Morse code would be much better, but better still an efficiently encoded digital signal sent with UT synchronous FSK. Probably Spectrum Lab already has everything you need for this, including the ability to sync the carrier frequency to an external frequency standard. > i plan to get the permission for a 300m vertical antenna! Yes, it is much better to go higher than to go wider. By going higher, you increase both the antenna capacitance and the effective height, the product of which is the dipole moment per volt. If you increase height by a factor N, the dipole moment increases by N^2 and the ERP is proportional to the square of the dipole moment! If you put up 300m you will be probably be detectable at 5000km or more. Lets see, 20mW at 5000km, that's about 6fT if 1/sqrt(r) holds out. Kein Problem! With some efficient message encoding, you will get your callsign across the Atlantic in reasonable time - in both senses. Oh, I will make a web page as you requested. -- Paul Nicholson --