Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.136]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDE074-5ebd4b9f8329214; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:10:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A0205380000BF; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 09:09:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NrWVe-0004Kt-Se for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:34 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NrWVe-0004Kk-GN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:34 +0000 Received: from parrot.netcom.co.uk ([217.72.171.49]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NrWVc-0003F6-AZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:34 +0000 Received: from abelian.netcom.co.uk (i-194-106-52-83.freedom2surf.net [194.106.52.83]) by parrot.netcom.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9552329320 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:05:51 +0000 (GMT) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by abelian.netcom.co.uk (8.13.1/8.13.1) with ESMTP id o2GD8PuB018130 for ; Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:25 GMT Message-ID: <4B9F82C9.3000301@abelian.org> Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:08:25 +0000 From: Paul Nicholson User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000001cac47a$f4ba1350$0202a8c0@laptopcore2> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B57@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B57@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AMATEUR_PORN=1.473 Subject: Re: AW: LF: DK7FC's 2nd VLF TX test... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.7 required=5.0 tests=AMATEUR_PORN,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40884b9f8327298b X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Stefan schrieb: > I will detailed describe now what happend on this experiment. > ... Thanks, that was a good field trip in the best amateur radio tradition. Ironic how we are at the same time using the most hi-tech, but also the simple batteries, kites, wires, big coils, etc that Marconi would have been quite at home with. It is a nice mixture. What is the exciter you are using - the silver box with the LCD display? And when the kite is up and tied to the car, and the wind picks up, how do you pull it down again - do you have a winch - or a knife? Your website mentions improvements for the next run, what do you have in mind? > So, what is the new WR? Sorry, only about 16km - so far! Perhaps the authorities can issue shorter callsigns for QRSS 300 operation? Practically, send the callsign rapidly for station ID, then slowly send one or two random code letters to constitute a message which can be verified for record purposes. DX receivers may cheat by looking at online spectrograms of course! FSK should be better than simple keying. > And what do you expect is possible at night? Signals should go a lot further, but the rx has a torrent of sferics to deal with. We will have to see. I think the ERP is about the same power as a small LED, or less? Amazing to think that is detectable 850km away. A puzzle is the excess signal strength, further independent rx measurements are required. If anyone is transmitting from home (uQRP?), I can set up very long non-coherent averaging (days?). That is something else to try for someone. An alternative to sending messages serially is to send data bits in parallel, multi-frequency, the whole message received in one long averaging. Many things to try! -- Paul Nicholson --