Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj02.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.86]) by air-md03.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMD034-8b7f4b97db9528c; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:49:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mj02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B98CF380001B7; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:49:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NpQ10-00032s-K2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:48:14 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NpQ10-00032j-7n for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:48:14 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NpQ0y-0005dn-I0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 17:48:14 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o2AHmB79021056 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:48:12 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:48:11 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 18:45:13 +0100 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B4F@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B4F@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: LF: KITE ANT Thread-Index: AcrAeRS+/BJ0GOIVTSKWnzFpXo8PpwAAFtB4 References: <4B978B2E.70404@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4B9792B0.5020609@abelian.org> <4B97D8F6.3000204@legal-medicine.de> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.717;31.01.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.9.388399, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.3.10.174231 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAC079.D9F102FA" Subject: AW: LF: KITE ANT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/56059 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a44b97db932b04 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC079.D9F102FA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Peter, you are in Kiel. This may be one of the best regions in germany for= kite antennas :-) Which kite have you used for your tests? Anything bette= r than the "Jumbo power sled 36" (or 81)? =20 Greetings from Heidelberg =20 Stefan ________________________________ Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org im Auftrag von pws Gesendet: Mi 10.03.2010 18:37 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: LF: KITE ANT Hi Paul, You wrote: > Can a thin wire be suspended between two kites, 100m or more apart? > ... Tried that some 9 years ago. Did not work due to heavy detuning effects if wind speed varied slightly. What worked sufficiently was a pyramid guying at ~1/3 of the full length of the kite rope such that the shack was just below the top of the pyramid. Greetings from Kiel, Peter, df3lp ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC079.D9F102FA Content-Type: application/ms-tnef; name="winmail.dat" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 eJ8+IgwRAQaQCAAEAAAAAAABAAEAAQeQBgAIAAAA5AQAAAAAAADoAAEIgAcAGAAAAElQTS5NaWNy b3NvZnQgTWFpbC5Ob3RlADEIAQ2ABAACAAAAAgACAAEEgAEAEQAAAEFXOiBMRjogS0lURSBBTlQA DgQBBYADAA4AAADaBwMACgASAC0ADQADAD0BASCAAwAOAAAA2gcDAAoAEgAwAAsAAwA+AQEJgAEA IQAAAEI4QkI2OThCRkRDNTc1NDdCRDg2RUJBMzRGMjg0RUVEAJUHAQOQBgBcDgAAOAAAAAMANgAA AAAAQAA5AGMSAXB5wMoBHgA9AAEAAAAFAAAAQVc6IAAAAAACAUcAAQAAADIAAABjPURFO2E9IDtw PUhTVDtsPUZJTEUtU0VSVkVSLUgtMTAwMzEwMTc0ODExWi0xNzAzAAAAHgBJAAEAAAARAAAAUmU6 IExGOiBLSVRFIEFOVAAAAABAAE4AAB9bbHjAygEeAFoAAQAAACMAAABvd25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dy b3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnAAACAVsAAQAAAGMAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDdAQ9UAgAAAABv d25lci1yc2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnAFNNVFAAb3duZXItcnNnYl9sZl9ncm91 cEBibGFja3NoZWVwLm9yZwAAAgFcAAEAAAAoAAAAU01UUDpPV05FUi1SU0dCX0xGX0dST1VQQEJM QUNLU0hFRVAuT1JHAB4AXQABAAAABAAAAHB3cwACAV4AAQAAADcAAAAAAAAAgSsfpL6jEBmdbgDd AQ9UAgAAAABwd3MAU01UUABwd3NAbGVnYWwtbWVkaWNpbmUuZGUAAAIBXwABAAAAGwAAAFNNVFA6 UFdTQExFR0FMLU1FRElDSU5FLkRFAAAeAGYAAQAAAAUAAABTTVRQAAAAAB4AZwABAAAAIwAAAG93 bmVyLXJzZ2JfbGZfZ3JvdXBAYmxhY2tzaGVlcC5vcmcAAB4AaAABAAAABQAAAFNNVFAAAAAAHgBp AAEAAAAWAAAAcHdzQGxlZ2FsLW1lZGljaW5lLmRlAAAAHgBwAAEAAAANAAAATEY6IEtJVEUgQU5U AAAAAAIBcQABAAAAGwAAAAHKwHkUvvwSdBjiFU0ilp8xaV6PD6cAABbQeAAeAHQAAQAAAB0AAABy c2diX2xmX2dyb3VwQGJsYWNrc2hlZXAub3JnAAAAAB4AGgwBAAAADwAAAFN0ZWZhbiBTY2jkZmVy AAAeAB0OAQAAAA0AAABMRjogS0lURSBBTlQAAAAAAgEJEAEAAADXBgAA0wYAAKgVAABMWkZ1/zA6 ygMACgByY3BnMTI1gjIDQ2h0bWwxAzA/AQMB9wqAAqQD4wIAY2jBCsBzZXQwIAcTAoD/EAMAUARW CFUHshHVDlEDAd0Q1zIGAAbDEdUzBEYQ2VkS72Y0A8YRijUDxlR8YWgDcQKAEeMI7wn3O3sbfw4w NRyfHHER4QxgY2cAUAsJAWQzNhFgC6U0ciAQAipcDrIBkA4QOQAgPEhUTUwgZIhpcj0iEHI+fSHT 5wAhAzAjIWRvAOAjIQqx/FxxG2AjIRDwAzAjhRFgjSGLMyFgIoBFQUQjUAkhjDc3InBUSVRMDkUn fSFQDvBSZTogVExGKlBLKMBFEXBO0lQnjTg1InAvKL8iIl0K4yAs3y3vDhA2DvA8gE1FVEEgbmEH gAA9R0VORVJBVDhPUiAFoAIwCfB0PQYiBeAikzguMDAuMSDAMDEuLBAOMDkifyd9KgEsUCc/KdEv HyIhNcERYDxCT0RZJ30g0RE2j2c5NiJwRElWISLWIGlkPTtgT1cGQSowC1B5VGV4dPszsCwgOCNZ AAAkhSUjJOH/JX84rzm/Osc8zz3fPuMhqZw2NEJaPq8iBDQ4InCcRk8rEDHRGxE9IzMAtUiyIACQ ejEgFPBmAND3MSAHE0JLYxPwA7IB0AMxGyFgRjhQEUAEkCwgebUIYCAKwGU7UAOgSwiQVGwuGhBo BAAgAMB5PCBiTVACIE6hI+B0aJtNUE6QcwVAHgBnaQIg+wQgTXFnBJADgU5wAhAFwHxraTIQTSAy AjDwBCA68C0pIFdOECVRUTMRANZ2TVBM8nURMGRQ40zx5wXAMhBPkHM/EXBQwE8w/QuAZ06BAkAT MU8wA5FPMggiSnUG0SBwb3cZEzFzbFOxILAiICihBbE4MSk/IYw1OnH+L0fyI1kjZ0SbAcAjZwqi 11p4CoAhjDAnAS86oVnP/0aPP/9BD0IfQy9ar0VPX8//R2xJL2NbS19nzlk/X28huII4IWAmbmJz cAKA+SN4J2EBQGU/W69cv13P/17fbt9g/2IPYx9kL3GPZk9fdq9ob2l/ao9Lu0cJ0XTHVTEEIANS IEhlO2BNwPlOkHJnbG9tf1p/cn9zj/90n3Wvfl93z3jfee96/3wP/30ffi9/P4BPgV9rf4UPhh// mG9vv3DPh3+Ij4mfiq+ar/+Mz43fju+P/5EPkh+TL6OPb5VPll+Xb6rmUzIQrUBu/5j/mg+HD58P oB+hL6I/qu//tg+3H6O/pM+l36bvp/+6v/YxDiA3wVIjWgqxCoG/75u7f7yLSDHAAZFJbgEAsHg9 LTGt7ABQcQDgRHFqDGBsZGIDMH68IF/IgshBJAALgGW0c7/Cr8O+qU+qX6tvrH89GiT/re8DMSww zT+cNzfQvgvIMbXR11YCIDrEvMFhL9N6S7JpTrB3TtByLREgZ2BiX2xmXwnACGBwZkACYADQa3NP QDvwLq8FsFVQB3ARcHUBgHIiMMwgdgIgVtB3c8B9OnH/wZzJEsmv0r/Tz4MTB5AJ8B0BAHTVT9Zf 12dNaSBzuQAy8DMuAdC5AORAOPg6MzfbT9xf3W/ef9+P/+f0VODhf+KP12fYX9lp5V/f5m/nf+iP 6Z/yNEIRQB4A/wEg6y/sP9dnKj7vn/Cv8b//sH+xj/vv+f/7D7LPs9+07/+4v/4Pyk/EX7z3vgsG zwff+8vZInBQwb8KqAoP/w/OvUvQb9G5SOQwUGHIACy//z8AT/uPFO8V/xcJWU0BfnfuYFFQ9bwY jxmf8o8mVGd0nRk+10lDVgFhe08hTXF3OvBPUqzAU5Bwv+EiV3BVcVcA4SBPIHdWwG1RMnNM0AVg MIQgV+Ft91fgUWEMQXRYTRw/HU8eX/sfb9d2LirAJS8mPydPKy97LD8tSVStoFdhVeFPoHPr0DBN UDlM4GUMUIPQNjDKb03gRDtgIG4bEBrg1Vfga72AdU1QdFbAT0BnUxBOcOFBdW5VMvWBZfZjVKA7 UGYt/y8PLRwhoO/GMKzAIlBXYXYMUDESV0D8aWedQDwQTeBSUDFxM0L7OYLaYGZScE2wUZA6EBrg U1HhITBwedqQbTLRZ3x1eVUxNZ82ry0cMXF+6DEvM072ZsgAv7BXUP9VQE8wTvZRM+5gIlAiEVKB XzFTTzLZgNlRO9NqU5B07z0vPj8tHE6QbFbwTyMz0P5wTvY8RSrvRa8tD0mfSq97S7qDXUs7cBSf TW9LflAH4VBXECPQZGYzbHD/UL9Rz0ufVK9Vv1bP/M8F//8PGwOeDd9Z/wKk9rENoQSfNwWvX78N BDXOwfbQT0QSWWGNMjf2sUhUTQpMDbB9Z3AAHgA1EAEAAABXAAAAPDM4QTUxQjc0Qjg4NEQ3NDA4 M0Q3OTUwQUQwREQ4NUU4MkExQjRGQEZpbGUtU2VydmVyLUhTVC5oc3QuZS10ZWNobmlrLnR1LWRh cm1zdGFkdC5kZT4AAB4AORABAAAArQAAADxCRkY2NzIzQjA2MkJGRjQwQjRCN0E2Q0Y2NzAxNjBC NDAzMTI5QzE4QGFyZ29zMi5jbGIudGNmci50aGFsZXM+IDw0Qjk3OEIyRS43MDQwNEBpdXAudW5p LWhlaWRlbGJlcmcuZGU+IDw0Qjk3OTJCMC41MDIwNjA5QGFiZWxpYW4ub3JnPiA8NEI5N0Q4RjYu MzAwMDIwNEBsZWdhbC1tZWRpY2luZS5kZT4AAAAAHgBHEAEAAAAPAAAAbWVzc2FnZS9yZmM4MjIA AAsA8hABAAAAHwDzEAEAAAAyAAAAQQBXACUAMwBBACAATABGACUAMwBBACAASwBJAFQARQAgAEEA TgBUAC4ARQBNAEwAAAAAAAsA9hAAAAAAQAAHMAqw/m95wMoBQAAIMLfu/Nl5wMoBAwDeP69vAAAD APE/BwQAAB4A+D8BAAAADwAAAFN0ZWZhbiBTY2jkZmVyAAACAfk/AQAAAFwAAAAAAAAA3KdAyMBC EBq0uQgAKy/hggEAAAAAAAAAL089SFNUL09VPUVSU1RFIEFETUlOSVNUUkFUSVZFIEdSVVBQRS9D Tj1SRUNJUElFTlRTL0NOPVNDSEFFRkVSAB4A+j8BAAAAFQAAAFN5c3RlbSBBZG1pbmlzdHJhdG9y AAAAAAIB+z8BAAAAHgAAAAAAAADcp0DIwEIQGrS5CAArL+GCAQAAAAAAAAAuAAAAAwD9P+QEAAAD ABlAAAAAAAMAGkAAAAAAAwAdQAAAAAADAB5AAAAAAB4AMEABAAAACQAAAFNDSEFFRkVSAAAAAB4A MUABAAAACQAAAFNDSEFFRkVSAAAAAB4AMkABAAAAIwAAAG93bmVyLXJzZ2JfbGZfZ3JvdXBAYmxh Y2tzaGVlcC5vcmcAAB4AM0ABAAAAFgAAAHB3c0BsZWdhbC1tZWRpY2luZS5kZQAAAB4AOEABAAAA CQAAAFNDSEFFRkVSAAAAAB4AOUABAAAAAgAAAC4AAAADAHZA/////wsAKQAAAAAACwAjAAAAAAAD AAYQ6qNBGAMABxBcAgAAAwAQEAAAAAADABEQAAAAAB4ACBABAAAAZQAAAFBFVEVSLFlPVUFSRUlO S0lFTFRISVNNQVlCRU9ORU9GVEhFQkVTVFJFR0lPTlNJTkdFUk1BTllGT1JLSVRFQU5URU5OQVM6 LSlXSElDSEtJVEVIQVZFWU9VVVNFREZPUllPVVIAAAAAAgF/AAEAAABXAAAAPDM4QTUxQjc0Qjg4 NEQ3NDA4M0Q3OTUwQUQwREQ4NUU4MkExQjRGQEZpbGUtU2VydmVyLUhTVC5oc3QuZS10ZWNobmlr LnR1LWRhcm1zdGFkdC5kZT4AAC5k ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAC079.D9F102FA--