Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.16]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDD073-865d4b93b05d1d0; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:55:41 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CADEC3800009D; Sun, 7 Mar 2010 08:55:39 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NoGwZ-000558-Jj for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:54:55 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NoGwZ-00054z-5r for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:54:55 +0000 Received: from web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.127]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NoGwZ-0003yc-2k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 13:54:55 +0000 Received: (qmail 22916 invoked by uid 60001); 7 Mar 2010 13:54:49 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1267970089; bh=Cjrj6bCHjqAezPxgNCi06ijqPkVVneCf+HMrwzlYJAk=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=DWbYOhUXTmq6dQEvTdz0C38sTjNX0REQIhaRkXXXf5v9xoPaKEWzPIByEu5jwXl1dQ2HoO457BpqNW5wYU1mxztm8KMBFRiXOpktqEPmmrXkRYkNlSgrU358ow2dxyS3c1RMjOtDu2WF3ZydES7ii5vtaTLN82DucMAt+YFicDk= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=mZqHAc6dSaGMS2ofnzOCMOnNykN9BH/trc45wwVForVetA6pZcGKjlGiR8fXki5mKpmdjKngB1yf/Ynv1bS6PNd8fS0jkQGcZ2DTxUUCohY9/OSylk8CwTeVU5KK5qCYQL/os1H8m4gBDwKeGg+VuyPfzWqizBT/C4qbYZBb5a8=; Message-ID: <315437.22487.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: NDKOGWQVM1mgA_AnfosyTYsBLAMpMJHXWusBvrpz2BchNqk gYEP4UtcpbbXZivlUal3ilTEWMTfZoIeb_48F11WR9fnb98904Hij5cNepK3 r1LZegHB0h4HZBtWFRGsPsDykGws38hTh33ZKOr9Vy3ah5_8dX3OTxlbRI5H 0oK6DX7LYAV1oLh3MPKzjP6YAOO86T3tYg.TTg8ws4EssCJJuUkG_v6dVE61 nZRmHcWqKvc6KgMBdfIT16.L11eSBfnCbdOUda.ysC2MSFKU_BMlC00Zj1vZ rPNQsWln4OLU- Received: from [86.143.244.65] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 07 Mar 2010 05:54:48 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.2.12 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 05:54:48 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4B934C4F.3010307@abelian.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: Why is this group not a Yahoo group with archives and web access? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1769901003-1267970088=:22487" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d257.1 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60104b93b05b6ab1 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --0-1769901003-1267970088=:22487 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Good point Paul. =A0 If a split was tied then this is the sort of thing that should be weighted= up. =A0 And I bet migration would not be 100% so we would land up with a fragmente= d group. I think the UK 500kHz group is the best alternative after all it= is established with little impact on the RSGB thingy and does the things= Roger is advocating. =A0 IMHO May be Blacksheep works so why try fix it. 73 es GL petefmt --- On Sun, 7/3/10, Paul Nicholson wrote: From: Paul Nicholson Subject: Re: LF: Why is this group not a Yahoo group with archives and web= access? To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Sunday, 7 March, 2010, 6:48 Roger Lapthorn wrote: > it would be much better if it was a Yahoo Group. It can often take a long time - several hours, for a message to come through a Yahoo group.=A0 Useless for activity alerts. Sometimes messages are lost completely, or appear in the group archives but are not received by email. > All messages are archived and can be searched easily, even > years later Maybe, so long as Yahoo continue the service.=A0 There's nothing to stop them pulling the plug on a group - or all groups for that matter, if business policy changes. One of the nice things about joining the LF list is to find a simple no-nonsense email reflector with a short reliable round-trip time - so refreshing compared with the Yahoo monster clunky too-full-of-features unreliable group server. -- Paul Nicholson -- =20 --0-1769901003-1267970088=:22487 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Good point Paul.
 
If a split was tied then this is the sort of thing that should be wei= ghted up.
 
And I bet migration would not be 100% so we would land up with a frag= mented group. I think the UK 500kHz group is the best alternative after al= l it is established with little impact on the RSGB thingy and does the thi= ngs Roger is advocating.
 
IMHO May be Blacksheep works so why try fix it.

73 es GL petef= mt

--- On Sun, 7/3/10, Paul Nicholson <vlf0308@abelian.org= > wrote:

From: Paul Nicholson <vlf0308@abelian.org&g= t;
Subject: Re: LF: Why is this group not a Yahoo group with archives= and web access?
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Sunday, 7 Ma= rch, 2010, 6:48

Roger Lapthorn wrote:
> it would be much bett= er if it was a Yahoo Group.

It can often take a long time - several= hours, for a message
to come through a Yahoo group.  Useless for= activity alerts.
Sometimes messages are lost completely, or appear in= the
group archives but are not received by email.

> All mess= ages are archived and can be searched easily, even
> years later
=
Maybe, so long as Yahoo continue the service.  There's nothingto stop them pulling the plug on a group - or all groups for that
matt= er, if business policy changes.

One of the nice things about joinin= g the LF list is to find a
simple no-nonsense email reflector with a sh= ort reliable
round-trip time - so refreshing compared with the Yahoo mo= nster
clunky too-full-of-features unreliable group server.

--Paul Nicholson
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