Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.151]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDE081-5ebe4ba8bdf32d; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:11:15 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dd11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A33A238000176; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:11:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nu3rx-0001BU-Pa for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:10:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nu3rx-0001BL-A5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:10:05 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nu3rv-0005uS-J8 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:10:05 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6054E7B8070 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:09:53 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BEFC31E702 for ; Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:09:53 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 14:09:59 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <0A742B5B9F6A4E84A802D1F98B670E79@JimPC> References: <2a2c8.24f60f40.38d54e4e@aol.com> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B81@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4BA5CFAA.2030007@freenet.de> <56800827A5644E1BB3F320CB51E2300E@Black> <26E279AD762E44FB937A8A7DF8F934BC@Black> <8C7F2923D86B4517B1C156BA499E96E4@Black> <29746320.1346347.1269244849281.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb078> <4BA7361F.1030702@abelian.org> <4BA7A586.8080307@abelian.org> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1B87@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <0A742B5B9F6A4E84A802D1F98B670E79@JimPC> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100323130953.2BEFC31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: DK7FC's 3rd VLF transmission Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40974ba8bdf04750 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, thanks for the circuit diagram for 9kHz the loop / preamp. That way I (and other) do not have to re-invent the wheel. It would be nice to have an e-probe circuit diagram as well, any takers ? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T At 11:34 23/03/2010, you wrote: >Dear Stefan, LF Group, > >...>Jim, M0BMU is the 2nd best DX distance! Jim, can you describe you RX >detailed, pse. Or have i forgotten an older mail? What was the new /p QTH? >And what are your observations about the change of QRM?... > >I was very pleased to be able to see a signal at my first serious attempt... >I have attached the current schematic of the preamp/filter used on Sunday. > >The receive site was about 5km east of my normal QTH, I think the locator is >IO91WR, but I'll check the exact coordinates. > >The /P site had considerably less man-made QRM than my home QTH. The odd >31.5Hz/5Hz spectral lines seen at home were completely absent, but >considerable 50Hz harmonics were present, due to nearby overhead power >lines. But these did not really cause a problem on Sunday, and I think a >noise-cancelling antenna arrangement would be feasible in a future test. > >...>BTW: We could philosophize what is the definition for "DX" on LF and >VLF! Or is there a standard definition? In my ham licence i learned that on >HF, DX is outside the own continent and on VHF it is above 300km. So, what >is it for LF? And what for VLF (by hams)?... > >I think on HF nowadays, DX just means stations with unusual callsigns. On >VLF, it probably should mean distances beyond those normally achieved - >which means just about any distance at all! > >Cheers, Jim Moritz >73 de M0BMU