Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.215]) by air-di04.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDI041-eac24b8fdf53102; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 11:26:59 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-df03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EF735380001AB; Thu, 4 Mar 2010 11:26:54 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NnDrq-0001zK-US for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:25:42 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NnDrq-0001zB-Er for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:25:42 +0000 Received: from smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.13.163]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NnDro-00009i-D0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 04 Mar 2010 16:25:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 80555 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2010 16:25:34 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=DKIM-Signature:Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=4zfAwO9gb818PY2D5eRskNLO5agRFEh54VKbzitbMxkBrnCivDVLIZhH2nawflZAxcL7JAIrw23KUl+H3hkhrrBpcJWeg8toSvN0my1VMYDrUa8NZKfNzv2u67NeB30YGFZ37tLf4bnTYFXIlrr1n5wY0eufpx/ReVzZ1j6ogrk= ; DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=btinternet.com; s=s1024; t=1267719934; bh=OdxYGY5p+jvE3kSB8bSJIO3bcMK3nuQPRa1Dr2pwWXY=; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=aAnU8ikr3llcBaU/T9DQHAYHxONcl+Cx+GcRkLUFNVGLL/xX4H524cIxZEdhoXTB7sS4Dk+mO0HY9K1HHm1qSZshUwlZYoePO4qE7v+3onECJSPEz/zgW07Ty0EnzGJPO3wPO5ysxqzJ1CdkMJNesGcuxxrOSrelXhZ4I8VWQa4= Received: from IBM7FFA209F07C (c.ashby435@86.168.219.223 with login) by smtp828.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 04 Mar 2010 16:25:33 +0000 GMT X-Yahoo-SMTP: .u8e2g.swBByWKjbpA3lR6Fw.2ZEQrJJpVsTSrpXLCffsPaCEMY- X-YMail-OSG: FAsyrCkVM1nSQQ4CLpO73QF12vjI1TYaoEvOJmTZO0rYtvPjJmGcX8Vp6dYl2gUqlGwx_GeJn53QqaZIQ6IXZrO43pywdKj6jEZfWnc1RLHwxA5KONFom5qLCwpg1xE3Bil9IUic3Eq_diilxOXzRoLVoXKvrxFXwhLSBDhqwtvXBOgcmJSwfZeC8aeMl_fl1z9cf16sjb1XszfoQcx37qqht9ZpZpJS9NmhB28- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <0E8B88C624C64C22B6B981E80B2F6B66@IBM7FFA209F07C> From: "Chris" To: References: <60699.92482.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:25:35 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.5 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,HTML_TAG_EXIST_TBODY=0.126,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 9kHz: soundcard RX Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CABBB7.51D58F00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d304.1 ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d74b8fdf4e38ab X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CABBB7.51D58F00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure what your point is, surely you're just saying the diodes are= doing their job? Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: M0FMT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2010 7:07 AM Subject: Re: LF: 9kHz: soundcard RX never blown a sound card up yet in over almost ten years of us= e. Two back to back diodes on the antenna lead close to the input plug= . Don't leave it connected during thunderstorms. Most modems are left= connected day and night to very very long over head telephone wires= for years with out problems. Vastly over hyped problem. 73 es GL petefmt --- On Wed, 3/3/10, Horst St=F6cker wr= ote: From: Horst St=F6cker Subject: LF: 9kHz: soundcard RX To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 3 March, 2010, 9:32 >And what about a simple band pass filter to supress the 50H= z and it's harmonics? Necessary or dispensable? You can hear (!) the difference. I just took a 10mH coil fro= m Reichelt to improve my soundcard-RX before one of the last SAQ activ= ities. Despite of more or less excellent digital filtering of SpecL= ab it's a good idea. One should not keep the soundcard busy with unwan= ted signals. What I am not sure about is the use of an audio transformer.= It might have some influence to the signal. As it just has to keep th= e soundcard from beeing blown it might be a good idea to take a cheap= soundcard instead of the audio transformer - and maybe a second in sp= are. Stefan, what USB-soundcard you bought for 10 EUR ? Horst DO1KHS ___________________________________________________________ GRATIS f=FCr alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT! Jetzt freischalten unter http://movieflat.web.de =20 ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CABBB7.51D58F00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not sure what your point is, surely= you're just=20 saying the diodes are doing their job?
Chris, G4AYT.
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From:=20 M0FMT=
Sent: Thursday, March 04, 201= 0 7:07=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 9kHz: soundc= ard RX

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never blown a sound card up yet in over almost= ten years=20 of use. Two back to back diodes on the antenna lead close to= the input=20 plug. Don't leave it connected during thunderstorms. Most mode= ms are=20 left connected day and night to very very long over head telep= hone wires=20 for years with out problems. Vastly over hyped problem.
73 es GL=20 petefmt

--- On Wed, 3/3/10, Horst St=F6cker=20 <horst.stoecker@web.de> wrote:

From:=20 Horst St=F6cker <horst.stoecker@web.de>
Subject: LF= : 9kHz:=20 soundcard RX
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: We= dnesday, 3=20 March, 2010, 9:32

>And what about a simple band pass= filter to=20 supress the 50Hz and it's harmonics? Necessary or=20 dispensable?

You can hear (!) the difference. I just= took a=20 10mH coil from Reichelt to improve my soundcard-RX before on= e of the=20 last SAQ activities.

Despite of more or less excellen= t digital=20 filtering of SpecLab it's a good idea. One should not keep= the=20 soundcard busy with unwanted signals.

What I am not= sure about=20 is the use of an audio transformer. It might have some influ= ence to=20 the signal. As it just has to keep the soundcard from beeing= blown it=20 might be a good idea to take a cheap soundcard instead of th= e audio=20 transformer - and maybe a second in spare.

Stefan, wh= at=20 USB-soundcard you bought for 10 EUR ?

Horst=20 DO1KHS
__________________________________________________= _________
GRATIS=20 f=FCr alle WEB.DE-Nutzer: Die maxdome Movie-FLAT!
Jetzt= freischalten=20 unter http://movieflat.web.de


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