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Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 20:45:11 +0000
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From: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.com>
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My thoughts precisely.

The phrase attributed originally to Solon the Lawmaker of Athens in 437 BCE
(or thereabouts) and subsequently Douglas Bader


As mentioned recently, I tried to apply for a NoV for 8.9kHz  a few years
ago.  mainly to allow publicicity 'after the event', whereas if I'd just
gone ahead and done it, people may have whinged on principle.

Anyway, Ofcom as was were quite helpful, and even arranged a three way phone
conversation with myself,  Ofcom themselves, and a representative of
the percveived users of that frequency who may be inconvenienced - the
Spherics lightning monitoring people.

The latter were quite open, and said "just go ahead",  they'd see if there
would be a problem (I was sure they'd never detect a signal; they were sure
they would)    Ofcom said they'd go away and consult on a form of words for
a NoV and that's where it all stopped.    Despite chasing, nothing more was
heard.   I lost interest in VLF, went back to microwaves and beacon
construction, and stopped thinking of how to make a BIG ground loop.


Andy
www.g4jnt.com


On 22 February 2010 20:19, John Bruce McCreath <weazle@hurontel.on.ca>wrote:

> Hello LFers,
>
> I'd just like to throw in my two pence worth from this side of the pond.
>  As it is very likely that the only listeners
> down there would be fellow experimenters, just go ahead and do it.  I have
> always found that it's better to ask
> for forgiveness than to ask for permission!
>
> 73, J.B., VE3EAR
>
> LowFER Beacon "EAR"
> 188.830 kHz. QRSS30
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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<div>My thoughts precisely.</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>The phrase attributed originally to Solon the Lawmaker of Athens in=
 437 BCE (or thereabouts) and subsequently Douglas Bader</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>=A0</div>
<div>As mentioned recently, I tried to apply for=A0a NoV for 8.9kHz =A0a=
 few years ago.=A0 mainly to allow publicicity &#39;after the event&#39;,=
 whereas if I&#39;d just gone ahead and done it, people may have whinged=
 on principle.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>Anyway, Ofcom as was were=A0quite helpful, and even arranged a three=
 way phone conversation with myself,=A0 Ofcom themselves,=A0and=A0a repres=
entative of the=A0percveived users of that frequency who may be inconvenie=
nced - the Spherics lightning monitoring people.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div>The latter were quite open, and said &quot;just go ahead&quot;,=A0 th=
ey&#39;d see if there would be a problem (I was sure they&#39;d never dete=
ct a signal; they were sure they would)=A0=A0=A0 Ofcom said they&#39;d go=
 away and consult on a form of words for a NoV and that&#39;s where it all=
 stopped.=A0=A0=A0 Despite chasing, nothing more was heard.=A0=A0 I lost=
 interest in VLF, went back to microwaves and beacon construction, and sto=
pped thinking of how to make a BIG ground loop.</div>

<div>=A0</div>
<div><br clear=3D"all">Andy<br><a href=3D"http://www.g4jnt.com">www.g4jnt.=
com</a><br><br><br></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 22 February 2010 20:19, John Bruce McCreath=
 <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:weazle@hurontel.on.ca">weazle@hur=
ontel.on.ca</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8e=
x; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3D"gmail_quote">Hello LFers,<br><br>I&#39;d ju=
st like to throw in my two pence worth from this side of the pond. =A0As=
 it is very likely that the only listeners<br>
down there would be fellow experimenters, just go ahead and do it. =A0I ha=
ve always found that it&#39;s better to ask<br>for forgiveness than to ask=
 for permission!<br><br>73, J.B., VE3EAR<br><br>LowFER Beacon &quot;EAR&qu=
ot;<br>
188.830 kHz. QRSS30<br><br><br><br><br><br><br></blockquote></div><br>

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