Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.10]) by air-me10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINME103-8bc74b6f04de5f; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 13:22:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F346B3800035A; Sun, 7 Feb 2010 13:22:20 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NeBkZ-000385-9D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:20:51 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NeBkY-00037w-LZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:20:50 +0000 Received: from mail-bw0-f224.google.com ([209.85.218.224]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NeBkW-0002YV-Cb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 18:20:50 +0000 Received: by bwz24 with SMTP id 24so4237022bwz.29 for ; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:20:42 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=Yf/L1qOnSNpIBD2P1uSm6dTV8L4232kxkpA/eVo8nrA=; b=aZpSHRXYLHeK1fovIK498rWYxUPi0dB/MdRVV9oEKCVJIiv2QkkjiW6IVuzvN1Zs3Q jiyGsCfV2lr4lhRbMwnuLrRjxh94EmynQcHAQRADwdR5mNYJ7lsw11gK+renF++3yvWK soAjB+ECyuPYltEdmyuOf6uwkbDB1GuyWq7lM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; b=pRDpJfOgAlTjfMmmQIMRYcu0BAft7Zco1wWELSeJ0H4zQ/o7pFbBAo0RgdIDNCxKF+ g17AIgemUz89lguD0VAPNSvF0/sF3X9uwY3u77zE4bBflpMadbfHF6/Sk/zIhgFytuXh iNHxyePfd7uL4/0GcxwILItRxwrQp5kIyWRDA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.34.135 with SMTP id l7mr3857401bkd.57.1265566842349; Sun, 07 Feb 2010 10:20:42 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 7 Feb 2010 18:20:42 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: jfell@tesco.net DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: WSPR S/N Tests Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000325559bba13eb1e047f06be5e X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600a4b6f04dc4c18 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000325559bba13eb1e047f06be5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 To try to get to grips with the falsely high values of S/N reported by some stations recently, I made a set of controlled measurements over a direct link using a range of Rx bandwidths and input signal levels. The results were dramatic. With receive bandwidths less than 300Hz, the reported S/N increased considerably. It was only possible to use bandwidths in steps of 500Hz so 100,150,200 etc with the SDR-IQ but these were more than enough to show the effect. Full details can be found in www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_SNR_Test.pdf but the results can be summarised as : ------------- Don't use a bandwidth below 300Hz unless you want artificially high SNR reports ----------------------- 300Hz or anything higher that allows the decoding software to see the full noise band is OK. Andy www.g4jnt.com --000325559bba13eb1e047f06be5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To try to get to grips with the falsely high values of=A0 S/N reporte= d by some stations recently, I made a set of controlled measurements over= a direct link using a range of Rx bandwidths and input signal levels.
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The results were dramatic.=A0 With=A0receive bandwidths less than 300= Hz, the reported S/N increased considerably.=A0=A0 It was only possible to= use bandwidths in steps of 500Hz so 100,150,200 etc with the SDR-IQ=A0but= these were more than enough to show the effect.
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Full details can be found in www.g4jnt.com/WSPR_SNR_Test.pdf=A0 but the results can be= summarised as :
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-------------=A0=A0 Don't use a bandwidth below 300Hz unless you= want artificially high SNR reports=A0=A0 =A0-----------------------
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300Hz or anything higher that allows the decoding software to see the= full noise band is OK.
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