Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.26]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-5ef84b88203f209; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:25:51 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mb06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3985C38000085; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 14:25:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nl5o0-0000Bs-VD for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:24:56 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nl5o0-0000Bi-K2 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:24:56 +0000 Received: from mx.omskcity.com ([79.133.160.2]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nl5ny-0008KB-4K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:24:56 +0000 Received: from noname.nodomain.nowhere (host209.161-133-79.sotline.ru [79.133.161.209]) by mx.omskcity.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with ESMTP id o1QJOojs022551 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:24:51 +0600 (OMST) (envelope-from fitec@omskcity.com) Received: from localhost (fitec@localhost) by noname.nodomain.nowhere (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id CAA00320 for ; Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:29:50 GMT X-Authentication-Warning: noname.nodomain.nowhere: fitec owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:29:50 +0000 (GMT) From: "Alexander S. Yurkov" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.1.8 (mx.omskcity.com [79.133.160.2]); Sat, 27 Feb 2010 01:24:52 +0600 (OMST) X-Spam-Score: 1.5 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12=1.498 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 9kHz noise level Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=DATE_IN_FUTURE_06_12 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601a4b88203e62ad X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Yet another comment. Today a have find some web page (www-star.stanford.edu/~vlf/south_pole/south%20pole.htm) where presented waterpole picture with some signal E ~ 4uV/m near 10kHz. It is dificult to estimate FFT-bandwith with the picture. But full screen is only few seconds. Signals are nice detectable. If this is right then much weaker signal to be detectable in long mode. On Fri, 26 Feb 2010, James Moritz wrote: > > Dear Markus, LF Group, > > I checked the noise level again during the daytime, and the noise level was > about 6dB lower than last night, i.e. about 13uV/m per sqrtHz > > One possibility for the discrepancy between results is that the effective > height of your antenna is reduced at VLF compared to the LF calibration > point. In my transmitting vertical field strength measuring sessions on > 500k, 136k and earlier 73k, the Heff of the same antenna works out > consistently less as the frequency is reduced. I think this is due to > increased "site loss" due to surrounding trees at the lower frequencies. > H-field sensing loop antennas can be expected to be less affected. Of > course, if there are no trees near your antenna, that theory is blown out of > the water... > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > Regards, Alexander