Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.78]) by air-de06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE061-5eb64b69d90d24c; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 15:14:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 9C9E338000191; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 15:14:03 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NclbB-0006Eu-VF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:13:17 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NclbB-0006El-Ie for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:13:17 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nclb8-0002Zr-Tl for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 20:13:17 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id o13KDDxT018664 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:13:14 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:13:13 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 21:13:13 +0100 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1ADF@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1ADF@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> Thread-Topic: Re: test signal wanted Thread-Index: AcqlCaQQGTidxzC+SrGocXzpoTTi2wAAowtp References: <12077821.1264946261487.JavaMail.root@wamui-cynical.atl.sa.earthlink.net> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1ACF@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <4C25D51A6FE646D5B8D9D37C87EA6BBC@lindavideo> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1AD4@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <0A1CC2C5367040E284D30F87A4967547@lindavideo> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1ADD@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <001e01caa508$f7157360$8cd9160a@EFREMOV> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.717;31.01.2010 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2010.2.3.200033 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01CAA50D.50815FC9" Subject: LF: AW: Re: test signal wanted X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-VSS-INFO: 5400.1158/54131 X-AOL-VSS-CODE: clean x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604e4b69d90b7a50 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) ------_=_NextPart_001_01CAA50D.50815FC9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Andrey, tnx very much! =20 Your signal is visible at the DF6NM grabber. Here it is also visible, but= just "T". Hight above gnd seems not to be optimal and there is a wet tree= near the ant. DCF39 is just S5... But i can see that there is something,= nice!=20 =20 Perhaps i have to make some measurements when the active (E- Field) antenn= a is not mounted to a big metallic tube. Then, i expect, the capacity of= the ground "electrode"(between far field and gnd and between gnd and eart= h) becomes more relevant. With a coax cable and/or a metallic tower, the= ground electrode has much more C against anything and can be seen as infi= nite. So just the C of the input wire is relevant. But not with a totally= decoupled system... =20 73! 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