Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb10.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb10.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.30]) by air-mb01.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMB014-a1884b8410ae398; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:30:22 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mb10.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B4E8E380038D8; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 12:27:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NjyWM-00033m-Co for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:26:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NjyWM-00033d-1G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:26:06 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NjyWJ-0005pD-76 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 17:26:06 +0000 Received: (qmail 20275 invoked by uid 507); 23 Feb 2010 18:25:26 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 23 Feb 2010 18:25:26 +0100 Message-ID: <201002231825390264.0720D365@smtp2.numeo.fr> References: <27454582.2927283.1266931019627.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb078> <201002231551000374.06933DBA@smtp2.numeo.fr> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:25:39 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: VLF_8.79 kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601e4b840fe572ba X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Trying again. *********** BEGIN FORWARDED MESSAGE *********** On 23/02/2010 at 14:16 John RABSON wrote: From: John RABSON To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 15:51:00 +0100=20 Subject: Re: LF: VLF_8.79 kHz >My LF ground system consists of nine rods each 1 m long, separated by >about 2 m. if I connect them in parallel the inductance at 980 Hz is >about 7=B5H, and the resistance is about 25 ohms. This suggests that, at >the frequencies we are considering, this is an essentially resistive >termination and we don't need to cancel out the reactive part. =20 > >If we place a similar setup at the other end of a long wire we should see >of the order of 50 ohms. Given that we are working at audio frequency, >perhaps the step-up transformer from 8 ohms could use conventional soft >iron laminations. At 50 Hz, my colleagues used to use a rule of thumb of >20VA per pound of laminations but I can't remember how this figure varied >with frequency. > >Can any audio power engineers please comment? > >73 >John F5VLF *********** END FORWARDED MESSAGE ***********