Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.28]) by air-df06.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDF063-5ef84b84fdec35e; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:22:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dh08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3F43A380000AD; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:22:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NkEMb-0004my-5J for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:21:05 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NkEMa-0004mp-M9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:21:04 +0000 Received: from imr-mb01.mx.aol.com ([64.12.207.164]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NkEMY-0002TO-Ce for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:21:04 +0000 Received: from mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.194]) by imr-mb01.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1OAKnkE029376 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:20:49 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.68] (unknown [92.9.230.245]) by mtaout-db02.r1000.mx.aol.com (WebSuites/MUA Thirdparty client Interface) with ESMTPA id 4DD89E000090 for ; Wed, 24 Feb 2010 05:20:48 -0500 (EST) From: g4gvw To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <030501cab4be$bab217a0$0217aac0@desktop> References: <001401cab497$85c1ea60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641002230838u68f9a31bw9b414fd655f2af13@mail.gmail.com> <004a01cab4a8$21dbf890$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <02db01cab4aa$e9580420$0217aac0@desktop> <1266950579.4464.30.camel@pat-compaq-evo> <030501cab4be$bab217a0$0217aac0@desktop> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:20:38 +0000 Message-Id: <1267006838.5004.10.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d33c24b84fd80705c X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: DATA Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d411c4b84fdeb13d7 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Not that we should prolong this thread, Jim, but I have failed to consider the tax implications. Quite obviously, should your experiment prove so successful that it promoted a boom in foil sales, then our darling chancellor aided by the men in brown boots would juggle the balls on their abacus and after a straw poll impose yet another tax. Hmmm, time to bring back the house martin. LOL. 73 On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 19:30 +0000, James Cowburn wrote: > Indeed! Only this afternoon after intercepting my post on the Echelon system > I received a call from the chief bully at No. 10 to advise me that such an > action could result in a modulation of global warming and so compromise > their plans for justification of future tax hikes in the name of the > environment. > > I was advised to go for a walk alone in the woods and take some paracetamol > and a blunt knife with me, just on the off chance that my regrets could make > me suicidal. > > Needless to say I declined the offer....got to go, there's some people at > the d > > > > > With best regards > > > Jim > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of g4gvw > Sent: 23 February 2010 18:43 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: RE: LF: DATA > > James, > > I am slightly concerned that your vast expanse of aluminium foil will be > reflecting sufficient sunlight as to require significant recalculation > of the factors affecting global warming! > > > > On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 17:09 +0000, James Cowburn wrote: > > I shall be there, boots blacked and at the ready!! > > > > > > > > Buy shares in Alcan foil as I will be cornering the world market in > > order to turn my garden into a huge capacitor! The XYL will have a > > seizure and the cats wont be happy either! > > > > > > > > With best regards > > > > > > > > Jim > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > From:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > > Sent: 23 February 2010 16:49 > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Subject: Re: LF: DATA > > > > > > > > > > Roger > > > > > > Like the man said the 9 Kcs craze is but the latest Appliance Operator > > TOY, however when you fire up the TOY I will look out for you, Jim > > might join in. > > > > > > > > > > > > mal/g3kev > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: Roger Lapthorn > > > > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:38 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: LF: DATA > > > > > > > > > > > > Mal, > > > > G7NKS has largely echoed my views on your email. > > > > Yes, HF conditions have been getting better. VK9 was worked on > > 10m from the UK today (on CW and not by me). I was able to > > decode the 1W WSPR signals on 10m from V53ARC (running just > > 1W) this morning and from FR1GZ (10W) yesterday. WSPR is > > hugely helpful in propagation testing on the higher HF bands > > and does not need much power. There is lots of WSPR activity > > on HF, although more on 10m would be useful to help seek out > > fleeting openings. PSK31 is widely used of course. > > > > Regarding <9kHz, clearly it is very unlikely any great > > distances will be spanned, but there is much that can be > > learned from such experiments. I have experimented with this > > in the past and hope to do so again soon, but using the best > > weak signal techniques this time. > > > > Your remarks about 500kHz "appliance operators" are not > > helpful. However, it's a free country and you're entitled to > > express your views, even if we choose to differ. > > > > 73s > > Roger G3XBM > > > > > > > > On 23 February 2010 14:50, mal hamilton > > wrote: > > > > Generally band condx vy good at present from LF to HF as far > > as 24 Mcs. Modes mostly CW and SSB world wide, some strong USA > > stns. > > > > > > What is noticeable is the lack of Amtor, Pactor and packet > > transmissions but RTTY seems to have survived over the years. > > > > > > Observations indicate that data mode acty does not last long, > > the novelty wares off, whereas the traditional modes CW, SSB > > and RTTY are still going strong. > > > > > > Some will argue that cw and rtty are data but I am referring > > to the fly by night data modes Amtor, pactor, packet and all > > the JT, wspr etc, tuning across the bands today I did not hear > > any of these modes. > > > > > > Obviously the majority of ham operators are not interested. It > > would appear MF attracts the Appliance Operator, and the > > 8.7739872 Kcs Dreamers!! > > > > > > If you fancy your chances on VLF below 9 Kcs I will listen > > out. I have a suitable RX and antenna. > > > > > > Your observations ? > > > > > > > > > > > > de G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > > http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM > > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > -- 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw qth nr felixstowe uk (east coast, county of suffolk)