Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mj03.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.87]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINMB073-a7a34b8424541a2; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:54:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mj03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 15EC23800008D; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:54:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NjzsL-0003PO-H1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:52:53 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NjzsL-0003PF-2u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:52:53 +0000 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NjzsI-0006Rd-J9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:52:53 +0000 Received: from mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.67]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id o1NIqbm8017869 for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:52:37 -0500 Received: from [192.168.1.68] (unknown [92.17.230.78]) by mtaout-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (WebSuites/MUA Thirdparty client Interface) with ESMTPA id B1213E0007AD for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 13:43:01 -0500 (EST) From: g4gvw To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <02db01cab4aa$e9580420$0217aac0@desktop> References: <001401cab497$85c1ea60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641002230838u68f9a31bw9b414fd655f2af13@mail.gmail.com> <004a01cab4a8$21dbf890$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <02db01cab4aa$e9580420$0217aac0@desktop> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 18:42:59 +0000 Message-Id: <1266950579.4464.30.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.26.1 x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d29434b8421b54d0b X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: DATA Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400c89a64b84244f4eb1 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 James, I am slightly concerned that your vast expanse of aluminium foil will be reflecting sufficient sunlight as to require significant recalculation of the factors affecting global warming! On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 17:09 +0000, James Cowburn wrote: > I shall be there, boots blacked and at the ready!! > > > > Buy shares in Alcan foil as I will be cornering the world market in > order to turn my garden into a huge capacitor! The XYL will have a > seizure and the cats wont be happy either! > > > > With best regards > > > > Jim > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > From:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 23 February 2010 16:49 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: DATA > > > > > Roger > > > Like the man said the 9 Kcs craze is but the latest Appliance Operator > TOY, however when you fire up the TOY I will look out for you, Jim > might join in. > > > > > > mal/g3kev > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Roger Lapthorn > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: LF: DATA > > > > > > Mal, > > G7NKS has largely echoed my views on your email. > > Yes, HF conditions have been getting better. VK9 was worked on > 10m from the UK today (on CW and not by me). I was able to > decode the 1W WSPR signals on 10m from V53ARC (running just > 1W) this morning and from FR1GZ (10W) yesterday. WSPR is > hugely helpful in propagation testing on the higher HF bands > and does not need much power. There is lots of WSPR activity > on HF, although more on 10m would be useful to help seek out > fleeting openings. PSK31 is widely used of course. > > Regarding <9kHz, clearly it is very unlikely any great > distances will be spanned, but there is much that can be > learned from such experiments. I have experimented with this > in the past and hope to do so again soon, but using the best > weak signal techniques this time. > > Your remarks about 500kHz "appliance operators" are not > helpful. However, it's a free country and you're entitled to > express your views, even if we choose to differ. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > On 23 February 2010 14:50, mal hamilton > wrote: > > Generally band condx vy good at present from LF to HF as far > as 24 Mcs. Modes mostly CW and SSB world wide, some strong USA > stns. > > > What is noticeable is the lack of Amtor, Pactor and packet > transmissions but RTTY seems to have survived over the years. > > > Observations indicate that data mode acty does not last long, > the novelty wares off, whereas the traditional modes CW, SSB > and RTTY are still going strong. > > > Some will argue that cw and rtty are data but I am referring > to the fly by night data modes Amtor, pactor, packet and all > the JT, wspr etc, tuning across the bands today I did not hear > any of these modes. > > > Obviously the majority of ham operators are not interested. It > would appear MF attracts the Appliance Operator, and the > 8.7739872 Kcs Dreamers!! > > > If you fancy your chances on VLF below 9 Kcs I will listen > out. I have a suitable RX and antenna. > > > Your observations ? > > > > > > de G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > -- 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw qth nr felixstowe uk (east coast, county of suffolk)