Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.77]) by air-dd09.mail.aol.com (v127_r1.1) with ESMTP id MAILINDD094-86b14b842d4c38e; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:32:28 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-da05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3BFFD380000BB; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 14:32:24 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Nk0TM-0003XJ-VJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:31:08 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Nk0TM-0003XA-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:31:08 +0000 Received: from mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nk0TL-0006fR-Bt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:31:08 +0000 Received: from know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net ([62.254.123.3]) by mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20100223193101.HRWH4474.mtaout02-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net> for ; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:31:01 +0000 Received: from [86.31.219.178] (helo=desktop) by know-smtpout-4.server.virginmedia.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Nk0TF-0001GT-1K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:31:01 +0000 From: "James Cowburn" To: References: <001401cab497$85c1ea60$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641002230838u68f9a31bw9b414fd655f2af13@mail.gmail.com> <004a01cab4a8$21dbf890$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <02db01cab4aa$e9580420$0217aac0@desktop> <1266950579.4464.30.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 19:30:59 -0000 Message-ID: <030501cab4be$bab217a0$0217aac0@desktop> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 In-Reply-To: <1266950579.4464.30.camel@pat-compaq-evo> Thread-Index: Acq0uZCEj9wjigluSHifOnDsc9SxhAABLGYw X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=W3tOLUehizD4qj6VhtReFuw5MKb8d+XqjIxlDsIazEA= c=1 sm=0 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=A06HpNCPAAAA:20 a=iHj8UeWpXyrbS2HTQCgA:9 a=XpEsIH21pQ-J71Z9LfcA:7 a=KLOVZWeMeoAA8QkoZfGtP-ypcMEA:4 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=T2AdT3V9C0XbtNpQ:21 a=ei8JxPUhCSXzuZv6:21 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 1.2 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,SUBJ_ALL_CAPS=1.166 Subject: RE: LF: DATA Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=SUBJ_ALL_CAPS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404d4b842d481909 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Indeed! Only this afternoon after intercepting my post on the Echelon system I received a call from the chief bully at No. 10 to advise me that such an action could result in a modulation of global warming and so compromise their plans for justification of future tax hikes in the name of the environment. I was advised to go for a walk alone in the woods and take some paracetamol and a blunt knife with me, just on the off chance that my regrets could make me suicidal. Needless to say I declined the offer....got to go, there's some people at the d With best regards Jim -----Original Message----- From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of g4gvw Sent: 23 February 2010 18:43 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: RE: LF: DATA James, I am slightly concerned that your vast expanse of aluminium foil will be reflecting sufficient sunlight as to require significant recalculation of the factors affecting global warming! On Tue, 2010-02-23 at 17:09 +0000, James Cowburn wrote: > I shall be there, boots blacked and at the ready!! > > > > Buy shares in Alcan foil as I will be cornering the world market in > order to turn my garden into a huge capacitor! The XYL will have a > seizure and the cats wont be happy either! > > > > With best regards > > > > Jim > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > From:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of mal hamilton > Sent: 23 February 2010 16:49 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: DATA > > > > > Roger > > > Like the man said the 9 Kcs craze is but the latest Appliance Operator > TOY, however when you fire up the TOY I will look out for you, Jim > might join in. > > > > > > mal/g3kev > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Roger Lapthorn > > > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2010 4:38 PM > > > Subject: Re: LF: DATA > > > > > > Mal, > > G7NKS has largely echoed my views on your email. > > Yes, HF conditions have been getting better. VK9 was worked on > 10m from the UK today (on CW and not by me). I was able to > decode the 1W WSPR signals on 10m from V53ARC (running just > 1W) this morning and from FR1GZ (10W) yesterday. WSPR is > hugely helpful in propagation testing on the higher HF bands > and does not need much power. There is lots of WSPR activity > on HF, although more on 10m would be useful to help seek out > fleeting openings. PSK31 is widely used of course. > > Regarding <9kHz, clearly it is very unlikely any great > distances will be spanned, but there is much that can be > learned from such experiments. I have experimented with this > in the past and hope to do so again soon, but using the best > weak signal techniques this time. > > Your remarks about 500kHz "appliance operators" are not > helpful. However, it's a free country and you're entitled to > express your views, even if we choose to differ. > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > > On 23 February 2010 14:50, mal hamilton > wrote: > > Generally band condx vy good at present from LF to HF as far > as 24 Mcs. Modes mostly CW and SSB world wide, some strong USA > stns. > > > What is noticeable is the lack of Amtor, Pactor and packet > transmissions but RTTY seems to have survived over the years. > > > Observations indicate that data mode acty does not last long, > the novelty wares off, whereas the traditional modes CW, SSB > and RTTY are still going strong. > > > Some will argue that cw and rtty are data but I am referring > to the fly by night data modes Amtor, pactor, packet and all > the JT, wspr etc, tuning across the bands today I did not hear > any of these modes. > > > Obviously the majority of ham operators are not interested. It > would appear MF attracts the Appliance Operator, and the > 8.7739872 Kcs Dreamers!! > > > If you fancy your chances on VLF below 9 Kcs I will listen > out. I have a suitable RX and antenna. > > > Your observations ? > > > > > > de G3KEV > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/G3XBM > G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > -- 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw qth nr felixstowe uk (east coast, county of suffolk)