Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.217]) by air-mb07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB073-a7a34b40bf22174; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 11:00:35 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-df05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2F9E43800141B; Sun, 3 Jan 2010 11:00:00 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NRSrJ-00025b-Rx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:59:13 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NRSrJ-00025Q-Cu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:59:13 +0000 Received: from mail-fx0-f211.google.com ([209.85.220.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NRSrG-0004PV-PG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:59:13 +0000 Received: by fxm3 with SMTP id 3so5417066fxm.4 for ; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:59:04 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=tPVQG3OKW+HaTcEOruwuXihhlyzrUqdx7Q6KkihwUlQ=; b=OAKE/dUtuterlenPHNgUWo1dUNcVJzIlKchbYNErJd4JXElVA+JICbH5AY7Frf7+cg h+cjaI5cBa77kZLvxueotsM9OrS4u/oYrCCKkwslmBTp2k92SYmUuR+aJTZFioAgxH4b Cixl25BYRYYK1l7NLXVPiCz1mmuqjPHS//3Wc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=CMimfia0CteJA1slxUDTOk6MXa4l0kLceqlpi8yEx7uvnN625vf4mZibILXXRzrdxZ H4zYVL0QzaEo4Fy9SxzVB9NzbjocEPGVYmUeNEhxY5X7/0/gM4hIGrJ9rtsRZmpRCm+y jtozk92yRJ2vsXB2uZmWN2wBHPhgdDqN+l3A8= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.162.142 with SMTP id l14mr587621hbd.43.1262534344615; Sun, 03 Jan 2010 07:59:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <005801ca8be9$fe628230$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001021420k5b4b5856x2dadbe35e2c87ead@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 3 Jan 2010 15:59:04 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d94b40bf0064a8 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) There is a way... If you can arrange an oscillator so that it can be pulled onto the four WSPR tone frequencies (separated by 1.46Hz ) by two logic lines. This could be as simple as two resistors, one twice the value of the other, giving a 2-bit D/A converter, controlling a varicap on the oscillator. Then a PIC keyer can generate the logic level drive. See www.g4jnt.com/WSPRBCNS.ZIP for details of generating teh WSPR message and the PIC code The design in there uses a GPS receiver to get accurate timing, but with some trivial PIC code changes it could be made to work in a standalone manually trigerred mode. Perhaps there's a demand here... WSPR encoding on the fly is easy enough in a PC http://www.g4jnt.com/wspr_coding_process.pdf A prog could be written to output the two-bit data via a USB/Serial port and PIC based dongle... Andy www.g4jnt.com Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police, is guaranteed to contain no substances hazardous to health, but may contribute to dissolving the nether and polar regions 2010/1/3 Graham : > Roger > > '''=A0 More people should use WSPR - ''' > > That's not as=A0 easy as=A0 it=A0 sounds , wspr=A0 needs=A0 a=A0 liner= audio to=A0 rf > carrier=A0frequency =A0conversion,=A0=A0...fine=A0 if you have a=A0 conv= entional > transverter , mf exciter or ham set that works down to=A0 500/137 ...No= good > if you=A0 have dividing logic in the=A0amplifier =A0drive train , vfo=A0= controlled > or PIC based without the=A0 'ability'=A0 to=A0 run a wspr=A0 generating= =A0 code set .. > Its a=A0 good=A0 point worth making though ... > > G.. > From: Roger Lapthorn > Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb > Mal, > > Some suggestions: > > More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than 100 at a time > based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within just a 200Hz= slice > of the band allowing very useful data on propagation and station > performance/changes to be determined.=A0 This would leave plenty of room > elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conversational modes. > Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not UK), is of > interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a good idea to= use > this mode when the band is open for really long-distance DX if interfere= nce > to weak signals is likely. > You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant and moan > less". > > 73s and a happy New Year to all on this reflector > > Roger G3XBM > > > > > 2010/1/2 mal hamilton >> >> I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on 508 kcs spreading over 3 kcs wide= and >> S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QRM to those of us trying to >> listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I cannot understand why a >> station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow band allocation. >> The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swamped by beacons. >> Does anyone else have an opinion? >> G3KEV >> > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > G3XBM =A0 =A0GQRP 1678 =A0 =A0 =A0ISWL G11088 > > >