Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.81]) by air-db06.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDB064-869a4b4b636c31b; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:44:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mc09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B19EA380000A3; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:44:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NUOI8-0004MQ-Gx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:43:00 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NUOI8-0004MH-5G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:43:00 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NUOI6-0002vA-VX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:43:00 +0000 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F89113414B for ; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:42:52 +0000 (GMT) Received: from cmsapps04.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.133] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.58V) with ESMTP id XID710oakRQ11377X02; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:42:52 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.133 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps04.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID710oakRQ11377X02 Received: from [192.168.1.5] [151.47.247.34] by cmsapps04.cms.usa.net (ESMTPA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.53P) with ESMTPA id 222oakRQY1472M40; Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:42:50 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.47.247.34 AUTH dibene@usa.net [192.168.1.5] Message-ID: <4B4B6317.1090907@usa.net> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 18:42:47 +0100 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000e01ca9223$6d16ec90$0517aac0@desktop> <9afca2641001101102r6252b153lf6d911ee622589e5@mail.gmail.com> <004101ca922b$214cf0e0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001101153u288ebc3dh81ba03efc09b650@mail.gmail.com> <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E82A1A8E@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> <002701ca92a7$306cf080$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <20100111120918.29c48e1d@opc1> <20100111141623.0d41fa7f@opc1> In-Reply-To: <20100111141623.0d41fa7f@opc1> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Z-USANET-MsgId: XID222oakRQY1472X40 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR, QRSS, CW... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60514b4b63691781 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) > Self-training = learning something, by your own endeavours > > Radio Communications = the whole gamut of science & engineering involved > in generating, radiating, receiving and detecting signals at radio > frequencies. > > Where does it prescribe that one must pass 2-way messages in real time > to undertake this "self-training"? There will not ever be an end to this dispute, unless we propose TWO kinds of ham radio licenses... License A) Released to all whose main interest is to learn new techniques or experiment old ones, either by building themselves hardware and/or software related to radio communication, where "communication" is to be intended with the meaning of "conveying information at distance", with whatever radio-related mean... let's call them "Radio Amateurs" License B) Released to all whose main interest is to use the radio to talk with other B-licensed persons, usually of subjects of no or very little importance, either by using SSB modulation, or by operating a mechanical switch that interrupts what otherwise would have been a CW (Continuous Wave) carrier... let's call them "Rags Chewers" If the two categories were allocated different frequency slots, with substantial fines in case of invasion of the other slot, then we all could live in peace, without arguments whatsoever... Radio Amateurs with Radio Amateurs, and Rags Chewers with Rags Chewers.... 73 Alberto I2PHD