Return-Path: Received: from mtain-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.73]) by air-da03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDA033-863b4b4213db22e; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 11:14:20 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id BBD8A38027D1D; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 11:12:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NRpWy-0008Uf-Nr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:11:44 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NRpWy-0008UW-3U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:11:44 +0000 Received: from cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.43]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NRpWv-0007Rh-QT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 16:11:44 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ACEB7B8057 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:11:32 +0100 (CET) Received: from PC_van_Rik.fys.kuleuven.be (dhcp-10-33-85-106.fys.kuleuven.be [10.33.85.106]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96D831E702 for ; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 17:11:31 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 7.1.0.9 Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 17:11:36 +0100 To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe In-Reply-To: <003701ca8d56$71677570$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> References: <005801ca8be9$fe628230$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001021420k5b4b5856x2dadbe35e2c87ead@mail.gmail.com> <000f01ca8d1e$5ff69010$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001040235u530e68b2i6c663bd665de075b@mail.gmail.com> <003701ca8d56$71677570$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <20100104161131.D96D831E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_30273507==.ALT" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE, TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40494b4213700659 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 --=====================_30273507==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed ZWF At 16:56 4/01/2010, you wrote: >ZBM2 ZBM2 ZBM2 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Roger Lapthorn >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:35 AM >Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb > >Mal - GROW UP. > >2010/1/4 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> >This is fantastic news for the Appliance Operator. Follow a basic >set up guide then let the unattended machines, all 200 of them >growling away at each other at 2 minute intervals. Operator check >data base once a year for possible hits. >I am surprised it is not more popular. >Over Xmas the bulk of activity was by Radio Operators on LF using CW >and QRS plus some limited MF activity again using CW. >de G3KEV > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Roger Lapthorn >To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM >Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb > >Mal, > >Some suggestions: >More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than 100 at a >time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within just >a 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagation >and station performance/changes to be determined. This would leave >plenty of room elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband >conversational modes. >Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not UK), >is of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a good >idea to use this mode when the band is open for really long-distance >DX if interference to weak signals is likely. >You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant and >moan less". >73s and a happy New Year to all on this reflector > >Roger G3XBM > > > > >2010/1/2 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net> >I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on 508 kcs spreading over 3 kcs >wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QRM to those of >us trying to listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I cannot >understand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow >band allocation. >The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swamped by beacons. >Does anyone else have an opinion? >G3KEV > > > > > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------- >http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 > > > > >-- >------------------------------------------------------------- >http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --=====================_30273507==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" ZWF

At 16:56 4/01/2010, you wrote:
ZBM2 ZBM2 ZBM2
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Lapthorn
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb

Mal - GROW UP.

2010/1/4 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net >
This is fantastic news for the Appliance Operator. Follow a basic set up guide then let the unattended machines, all 200 of them growling away at each other at 2 minute intervals. Operator check data base once a year for possible hits.
I am surprised it is not more popular.
Over Xmas the bulk of activity was by Radio Operators on LF using CW and QRS plus some limited MF activity again using CW.
de G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Lapthorn
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb

Mal,

Some suggestions:
More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than 100 at a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within just a 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagation and station performance/changes to be determined.  This would leave plenty of room elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conversational modes.
Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not UK), is of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a good idea to use this mode when the band is open for really long-distance DX if interference to weak signals is likely.
You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant and moan less".
73s and a happy New Year to all on this reflector

Roger G3XBM




2010/1/2 mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net >
I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on 508 kcs spreading over 3 kcs wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QRM to those of us trying to listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I cannot understand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow band allocation.
The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swamped by beacons.
Does anyone else have an opinion?
G3KEV
 




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