Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db09.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db09.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.93]) by air-de03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE032-5eab4b5042b21cb; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:25:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-db09.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5A1993800005F; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 05:25:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NVjMG-0006cw-Uh for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:24:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NVjMG-0006cn-Ak for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:24:48 +0000 Received: from mail-pw0-f45.google.com ([209.85.160.45]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NVjMD-0001NS-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:24:48 +0000 Received: by pwj1 with SMTP id 1so206667pwj.4 for ; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:24:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=bvKa/cKevRow9y59JwkQ6fV3YoQ9FHj2qfj0B0I/ebs=; b=i7LyjPHkymvZrrv0UtwdRH0+U464rxC3w+/2EdulT/ngIwLkq1HILDEYJKb8KkGkPl 2MJomrHUY27Uwqtpbxv3KtJsuZQvptzdHsOtTdrHdwod/+tnkM9dDwokJgH1LWgSyrE8 roKEEayMfxZCw8IrRHIWb8BHbMpobjB0pG2Cw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=eTPHWiyTknJouBy5viyuSLnpIWJDgZ3a3Zwh8bB6CoTHGvrcLm8+W4xss/ul1lFAQP AF4Gx2OMddQWmLhEPz+BFQ/STQDbLc4OxppLSF+8kTVveJ5IN0M26bCbKDZf4KgdDUxm 4R3/hLEyOLupTKUvGveDO77XcPsGfQHTUSelA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.141.107.14 with SMTP id j14mr1583474rvm.271.1263551076796; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 02:24:36 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1190791598.1263504602.167115768.21220@mcgi57.rambler.ru> References: <126980379.1263435061.156205952.17650@mcgi37.rambler.ru> <1f0624b91001140353le8ae77brd1d1180757a9f8f6@mail.gmail.com> <1EFCA9A32D95487BB1DEAD82067AC23B@TraceyPC> <1f0624b91001140606p6b1a31eew7f33d9fdf9af5b1f@mail.gmail.com> <1f0624b91001141210s3bcff9d7vfaf87d6e44afc4b9@mail.gmail.com> <1190791598.1263504602.167115768.21220@mcgi57.rambler.ru> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 10:24:36 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 647837d1d456123b Message-ID: <1f0624b91001150224pc606410yc900cb9ab5bab7ff@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF:498.8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd139fe168b0e047d3169dc X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNSAFE,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d405d4b5042b100ab X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --000e0cd139fe168b0e047d3169dc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Roman, LF, I realise I have resolved the issue of the "signal" but the spectrum line that appeared at the bottom of the display looked like it was a repeated 1 minute segment. It was in fact a continuous signal which was broken into 1 minute lengths by the time label at the bottom which is in a black box for clearer display. 73, Gary - G4WGT 2010/1/14 Roman RW3ADB > Hi Gary, LF! > TNX to all for the details and participation in identification. > I thought about an NDB, but signal was so very long 1 minute. > Is't real to be an NDB ID. > Some time he was like a carrier on the screen. > > * Gary - G4WGT [Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:10:59 +0000]: > >> Hi All at LF, >> >> Update on previous mails regarding 498.800 kHz. >> >> The signal is not really there, I tried to Rx it on my "real" radios >> using >> my 500 kHz vertical & there was nothing there. I was able to Rx a >> > couple > > Do you tried to rx today or yesterday? > That signal is absent today on the grabber. > > of >> NDB's a little lower at good strength but nothing on 498.800 kHz. Yet >> > it > >> was >> there good & strong on the SoftRock SDR I use for the grabber. >> >> My next move was to connect to another sound card & not only was the >> signal >> not there on 498.800 kHz a great deal of hash & other interference had >> disappeared as well. >> >> You will notice a much better display now on the grabber, the sound >> > card > >> is >> an external Creative Sound Blaster Live 24 bit. >> >> 73, Gary - G4WGT. >> >> >> >> 2010/1/14 Gary - G4WGT >> >> > Hi Tracey, >> > >> > Thanks, I have looked at the list & the nearest is the following >> > UNID > >> :- >> > >> > >> >> 498.7< > http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/?mode=signal_list&filter_khz_1=498.7&filter_khz_2=498.7&limit=-1 > > > >> > *NT* 0 UNID >> >> XUU > >> > UNID ENG IRL *2* 2005-08-28 >> > Not sufficient info at the moment, I will see if I can copy an ID >> when/if >> > it gets strong enough. >> > >> > 73, Gary - G4WGT. >> > >> > >> > >> > 2010/1/14 Tracey Gardner >> > >> > Hello Gary >> >> >> >> Have you checked the REU list for your signal? >> >> >> >> http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/ >> >> >> >> If you do a search between 497kHz and 500kHz you'll find that there >> are a >> >> good number of unid NDBs in that area. >> >> >> >> Tracey >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> *From:* Gary - G4WGT >> >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:53 AM >> >> *Subject:* Re: LF:498.8 >> >> >> >> Hi Roman, LF, >> >> >> >> I have also noticed the signal on 498.800 kHz. >> >> >> >> I have looked back at 3 days grabber saves & the signal fades in at >> about >> >> 1530utc & fades out at about 0700utc the following morning. At >> > times > >> there >> >> appears to an accompanying parallel signal about 1 kHz higher which >> looks >> >> like an NDB ID (see attachment), but nothing on my lists for an NDB >> on that >> >> frequency. >> >> >> >> I will set up another SpecLab to monitor that frequency & a few kHz >> either >> >> side to watch for an ID type signal on the LF side as well as the >> > HF > >> side of >> >> the carrier. I will report my findings to LF for anyne who may be >> >> interested. >> >> >> >> 73, Gary - G4WGT. >> >> >> >> >> >> 2010/1/14 Roman RW3ADB >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Hi LF! >> >>> What is a signal are visible onto G4WGT grabber around 498.8 kHz? >> >>> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2010/20100113_498.8/capt500-4.jpg >> >>> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2010/20100113_498.8/capt500-4.1.jpg >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> Roman RW3ADB. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > > > > > -- > Roman RW3ADB. > > --000e0cd139fe168b0e047d3169dc Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roman, LF,

I realise I have resolved the issue of the= "signal" but the spectrum line that appeared at the bottom of= the display looked like it was a repeated 1 minute segment. It was in fac= t a continuous signal which was broken into 1 minute lengths by the time= label at the bottom which is in a black box for clearer display.

73,=A0Gary - G4WGT


2010/1/14 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
Hi Gary, LF!
TNX to all for the details and participation in identification.
I thought about an NDB, but signal was so very long 1 minute.
Is't real to be an NDB ID.
Some time he was like a carrier on the screen.

* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk> [Thu, 14 Jan 2010 20:10:59 +0000]:
Hi All at LF,

Update on previous mails regarding 498.800 kHz.

The signal is not really there, I tried to Rx it on my "real" ra= dios
using
my 500 kHz vertical & there was nothing there. I was able to Rx a
couple

Do you tried to rx today or yesterday?
That signal is absent today on the grabber.

of
NDB's a little lower at good strength but nothing on 498.800 kHz. Yet=
it
was
there good & strong on the SoftRock SDR I use for the grabber.

My next move was to connect to another sound card & not only was the signal
not there on 498.800 kHz a great deal of hash & other interference had=
disappeared as well.

You will notice a much better display now on the grabber, the sound
card
is
an external Creative Sound Blaster Live 24 bit.

73, Gary - G4WGT.



2010/1/14 Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>

> Hi Tracey,
>
> Thanks, I have looked at the list & the nearest is the following=
UNID
:-
>
>

498.7<http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/?mode=3Dsignal_list&fil= ter_khz_1=3D498.7&filter_khz_2=3D498.7&limit=3D-1>
> *NT* =A0 0 =A0 UNID

XUU<http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/= ?mode=3Dsignal_list&filter_itu=3DXUU>
> =A0 =A0UNID ENG IRL *2* 2005-08-28
> Not sufficient info at the moment, I will see if I can copy an ID
when/if
> it gets strong enough.
>
> 73, Gary - G4WGT.
>
>
>
> 2010/1/14 Tracey Gardner <tracey.gardner@talktalk.net>
>
> =A0Hello Gary
>>
>> Have you checked the REU list for your signal?
>>
>> http://www.classaxe.com/dx/ndb/reu/
>>
>> If you do a search between 497kHz and 500kHz you'll find that= there
are a
>> good number of unid NDBs in that area.
>>
>> Tracey
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* Gary - G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> *Sent:* Thursday, January 14, 2010 11:53 AM
>> *Subject:* Re: LF:498.8
>>
>> Hi Roman, LF,
>>
>> I have also noticed the signal on 498.800 kHz.
>>
>> I have looked back at 3 days grabber saves & the signal fades= in at
about
>> 1530utc & fades out at about 0700utc the following morning.= At
times
there
>> appears to an accompanying parallel signal about 1 kHz higher whi= ch
looks
>> like an NDB ID (see attachment), but nothing on my lists for an= NDB
on that
>> frequency.
>>
>> I will set up another SpecLab to monitor that frequency & a= few kHz
either
>> side to watch for an ID type signal on the LF side as well as the=
HF
side of
>> the carrier. I will report my findings to LF for anyne who may be=
>> interested.
>>
>> 73, =A0Gary - G4WGT.
>>
>>
>> 2010/1/14 Roman RW3ADB <rw3adb@rambler.ru>
>>
>>>
>>> Hi LF!
>>> What is a signal are visible onto G4WGT grabber around 498.8= kHz?
>>> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2010/20100113_498.8/capt5= 00-4.jpg
>>> http://rw3adb.narod.ru/2010/20100113_498.8/cap= t500-4.1.jpg
>>>
>>> --
>>> Roman RW3ADB.
>>>
>>>
>>
>




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Roman RW3ADB.


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