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Yes Gary, It all came together shortly after I had figured out that no
matter whether it was string, rubber bands or wire, the connection
between two baked bean cans needed to be taut in order for
communications to take place! Meccano was fun too - only 10 or so years
ago I used the knowledge gained as a kid and Meccano parts from a car
boot sale to create a drive system for a roller coaster. 

73

On Tue, 2010-01-12 at 09:54 +0000, Gary - G4WGT wrote:
> Pat, LF,
> 
> 
> You wrote :-
> "As to my own LF achievements, my greatest occured many years ago
> (approx. 50) when I used a little glass encapsulated device together
> with a toilet roll centre and some wire salvaged from an old
> transformer
> and a couple of bits from an old radio to generate enough volts across
> an old government-surplus headset to receive something called "The
> Light
> Programme" from the BBC. I didn't even know about something called LF
> or
> MF. At the age of approximately 11 years that feeling of achievement
> was
> so mind-blowing that nothing I have done in radio ever since has ever
> surpassed it"
> 
> 
> I didn't look at it from that perspective but I have just realised
> that I did exactly the same when I was about 12 years (58 years ago).
> That brings back the memories of my little "shack" under the stairs in
> my parents small terraced house & a wire up to the loft.
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> Gary - G4WGT.
> 
> 
> 2010/1/11 g4gvw <g4gvw@aol.com>
>         Oh dear Mal!
>         
>         I'm afraid I must, therefore, admit to being a British citizen
>         living in
>         the country of my birth and consequently subject to ITS laws
>         and
>         regulations. I also have to accept that in practical terms
>         there is a
>         political influence at work in the legislature of any country
>         with a
>         legal or regulatory system.
>         As to my own LF achievements, my greatest occured many years
>         ago
>         (approx. 50) when I used a little glass encapsulated device
>         together
>         with a toilet roll centre and some wire salvaged from an old
>         transformer
>         and a couple of bits from an old radio to generate enough
>         volts across
>         an old government-surplus headset to receive something called
>         "The Light
>         Programme" from the BBC. I didn't even know about something
>         called LF or
>         MF. At the age of approximately 11 years that feeling of
>         achievement was
>         so mind-blowing that nothing I have done in radio ever since
>         has ever
>         surpassed it so I now take a lot of impressing and multiple
>         DXCC on
>         every frequency from DC to Light just doesn't cut it anymore
>         as an end
>         in itself.
>          You see that achievement all those years ago was born out of
>         ignorance
>         - I no longer have that excuse!
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 16:39 +0000, mal hamilton wrote:
>         > That was a political decision, the GPO, BBC and others were
>         afraid a mere
>         > radio amateur might get ahead of them at the time. The same
>         criteria did not
>         > apply in other countries like the USA and others worldwide.
>         > G3KEV
>         >
>         > ----- Original Message -----
>         > From: "g4gvw" <g4gvw@aol.com>
>         > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>         > Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 3:16 PM
>         > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR, QRSS, CW...
>         >
>         >
>         > > This discussion seems a bit pointless and is not getting
>         anyone
>         > > anywhere. After all, the original AA (Artificial Aerial)
>         licences from
>         > > which the modern licence (and by default its ethos)
>         derives was intended
>         > > to allow the experimenter to generate Rf with a
>         prohibition on any
>         > > effective radiation.
>         > > One might also consider the definition of "message" - the
>         presence or
>         > > otherwise of a carrier of whatever duration or amplitude
>         might be
>         > > considered a "message"!
>         > > If you really want to be pedantic, were I not to be an
>         amateur radio
>         > > licence holder, would I be permitted to listen to those
>         stations who
>         > > have notices of variation etc. From where I'm sitting I
>         cannot determine
>         > > whether or not they are "authorised" from the point of
>         view of a
>         > > listener under the regulations.
>         > > My licence does not appear to require me to transmit
>         anything at any
>         > > time. It simply (or with complications) sets out terms and
>         conditions to
>         > > which I am expected to adhere when I do radiate RF.
>         > > I am getting very concerned that somewhere "out there" is
>         a strange and
>         > > mythical figure called "The Perfect Radio Amateur".
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >
>         > >
>         > > On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 12:36 +0000, David Pratt wrote:
>         > > > In a recent message, John P-G
>         <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk> wrote ...
>         > > > >
>         > > > >Where is the requirement to pass any message
>         whatsoever?
>         > > >
>         > > > Clause 1(1)(a) of the Terms, conditions and limitations
>         of your Licence:
>         > > >
>         > > > The Licensee shall ensure that the Radio Equipment is
>         only used:
>         > > > for the purpose of self-training in radio communication,
>         including
>         > > > conducting technical investigations....
>         > > >
>         > > > The SRP does not replace the Amateur Radio Licence; it
>         is merely an
>         > > > addition to it.
>         > > >
>         > > > To me, radio communication means passing messages.
>         > > >
>         > > > 73
>         > > >
>         > > > David G4DMP
>         > > >
>         > > --
>         > > 73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw
>         > >  qth nr felixstowe uk
>         > > (east coast, county of suffolk)
>         > >
>         > >
>         >
>         >
>         
>         --
>         
>         73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw
>          qth nr felixstowe uk
>         (east coast, county of suffolk)
>         
>         
>         
> 
> 
-- 
73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw
 qth nr felixstowe uk
(east coast, county of suffolk)