Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dc07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dc07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.135]) by air-di08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDI082-eb674b4e17423a4; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:56:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-dc07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id CDE32380001DE; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 13:55:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NV8MT-0004o2-H0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:54:33 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NV8MT-0004nt-3H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:54:33 +0000 Received: from smtp832.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.189.246]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NV8MR-00022N-Hw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:54:33 +0000 Received: (qmail 66156 invoked from network); 13 Jan 2010 18:54:25 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=i3gTgjU6V6RuaZAZdKZpoVECHfvAtNFDvlcqRv7+9WamnS3eR7u/gOibltdd1CLTatQNOHnvaRi2tyKLlwCs3L30IeM/nPjqO73L5PHfVo23TxBuqn2G3A32FBoreuZ7ZsaLJmfuHobJ0h1U2HPTvCAcp7vYyoO+PG3eKDWNAMQ= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.180.119.65 with login) by smtp832.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 Jan 2010 18:54:25 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: w7KCN4EVM1myL4MJ7_QPsKyzG1GmAyE1FKYGBHN_33kc22rZjqL95bLvfs4xqrVX2UOnrS6OUlfUaMEhukXRlqh0RqwiJoZz7oNloInyrV.AOC_b21DV0TZXCo9_NjIorXAG1X.bbM6oPFzdRh0Go9Lt3vQS8vVu0Bcnh3B_y0Er96OSkaS9cwDEygEHgFgtXWsRrdNjjTBgtYPCpRGepbzIQpS30sdsznXqY19IXgCi5Q-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <11F4F2A4333B47F98182FC8461A9BA47@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <001201ca9444$ed415810$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> <3C7515D8E8B4467A8CF7A04C8C26F2C2@JimPC> <003301ca946d$3f750460$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> In-Reply-To: <003301ca946d$3f750460$0301a8c0@your91hoehfy9g> Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:54:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6002.18005 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6002.18005 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: DECCA 5501 tx Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40874b4e173f3d90 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Mal, LF Group, G3KEV wrote: > Tnx Jim for reply, but since a class D with a resonated output L/C becomes > a > single frequency tx it is getting close to class E design. All of these circuits which depend on a tuned tank circuit of some sort (class C, D, E, F...) are essentially single frequency devices, although often the tank loaded Q can be fairly low, and so accomodate a modest frequency change without re-tuning. Differences between class D and E are: -Class D designs of the "Decca" voltage-mode type are "zero-current switching", i.e. the output devices switch the voltage when the load current sine wave reaches its zero points, which reduces switching losses. (the push-pull G3YXM/G0MRF circuits are more-or-less the complementary, current-mode, zero-voltage switching type). Class E cleverly arranges things so that both voltage and current are zero when switching occurs, further reducing switching losses. -Class D are symmetrical circuit topologies with symmetrical waveforms at the output, while the basic class E circuit is single-ended with asymmetrical waveforms. > It would be interesting to observe the switching wave form while adjusting > L/C for resonance instead of just peaking for max output. As Andy says the Decca-type switching waveform is ideally always a square wave, irrespective of load impedance. The load current, observed with a current transformer, is always virtually a sine wave. The effect of mis-tuning is that the voltage and current waveforms get out of phase with each other. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU