Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (rly-dg12.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.96]) by air-dg01.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG013-60d4b535b8a7c; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:49:03 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG124-60d4b535b8a7c; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 13:48:44 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NWa9j-0008OG-4t for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:47:23 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NWa9i-0008O7-Mk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:47:22 +0000 Received: from mail.gmx.net ([213.165.64.20]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NWa9g-0008PT-Mo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 17 Jan 2010 18:47:22 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 17 Jan 2010 18:47:11 -0000 Received: from p5DC4386D.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens04) [93.196.56.109] by mail.gmx.net (mp053) with SMTP; 17 Jan 2010 19:47:11 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/dkQ5aGiTdJSPgDEN3noOAuKgNE1GTpolNqFFn20 lOB9mExZ6vTncn Message-ID: <009c01ca97a5$7ad44490$0201a8c0@Clemens04> From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <002601ca9605$11be0870$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001150919g4adfc9e3g7eb7672cffaf6081@mail.gmail.com> <005401ca960a$76d684d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <002801ca9786$7c58b2c0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <17BA74D16712478BA7BE98EEE32AB402@AGB> <000901ca978d$2edb0910$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <008501ca9795$472db6e0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sun, 17 Jan 2010 19:46:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3598 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-FuHaFi: 0.5 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Dirty carrier Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Graham, the rx was tuned to 504*k*Hz as you can see on the screenshot. The RBW or better bin resolution was 0,12Hz. I'm not sure what you mean by "mHz": MilliHertz or Megahertz? Or do I miss your point? 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham" To: Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 6:12 PM Subject: Re: LF: Dirty carrier ? Clemens I think Mal is referring to Hz and not mHz ? .. the tx is only across the Irish sea from Liverpool and shows +30 db over the noise on spec-lab .. sometimes I can listen to the audio .. :( .. G .. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Clemens Paul" Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:51 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Dirty carrier > That's how the "504kHz-carrier" looks like here on Perseus. > Actually two carriers,one a bit lees than 1Hz below and another, > a bit more than 3Hz below. > > > 73 > Clemens > DL4RAJ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 4:53 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Dirty carrier > > >> The sidebands spread 900 hz spaced each side of the carrier at 100 hz >> intervals.The dirt has now gone, fault rectified. >> g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Graham" >> To: >> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 3:44 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: Dirty carrier >> >> >>> Carrier is 30 db over the noise floor at Liverpool , no hum lines >>> showing, >>> only modulation spread , nothing showing at Birmingham either >>> > http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ >>> >>> If it was 100 Hz hum , then the side bands would be , 503.900 and >>> 504.100 .. that was the reason for picking 502.4 as the wspr >> frequency >>> to make use of the 100 Hz window under 504 .. >>> >>> G .. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "mal hamilton" >>> Sent: Sunday, January 17, 2010 3:05 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: LF: Dirty carrier >>> >>> > >>> > I think it is a problem with RTE 2nd harmonic 100 hz hum on the >>> > carrier >>> > 503.4 K/cs >>> > de mal/g3kev >>> > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: "James Moritz" >>> > To: >>> > Sent: Friday, January 15, 2010 5:50 PM >>> > Subject: Re: LF: Dirty carrier >>> > >>> > >>> >> Dear Mal, LF Group, >>> >> >>> >> Nothing unusual visible/audible here... >>> >> >>> >> Cheers, Jim Moritz >>> >> 73 de M0BMU >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. > Von AVG überprüft - www.avg.de > Version: 9.0.725 / Virendatenbank: 270.14.147/2628 - Ausgabedatum: > 01/17/10 08:35:00 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. 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