Return-Path: Received: from rly-md01.mx.aol.com (rly-md01.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.139]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-8e34b420ffea4; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:58:16 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD013-8e34b420ffea4; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 10:57:52 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NRpI8-0008Kc-O6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:56:24 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NRpI8-0008KT-3W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:56:24 +0000 Received: from out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.239]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NRpI5-0007KY-GF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 15:56:24 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AroEAOedQUtOlVWU/2dsb2JhbACNPwbGR4Iigg4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,499,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="265865526" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.149.85.148]) by out1.ip03ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 04 Jan 2010 15:56:14 +0000 Message-ID: <003701ca8d56$71677570$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <005801ca8be9$fe628230$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001021420k5b4b5856x2dadbe35e2c87ead@mail.gmail.com> <000f01ca8d1e$5ff69010$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001040235u530e68b2i6c663bd665de075b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 15:56:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA8D56.71035C70" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA8D56.71035C70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ZBM2 ZBM2 ZBM2 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 10:35 AM Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Mal - GROW UP. 2010/1/4 mal hamilton This is fantastic news for the Appliance Operator. Follow a basic= set up guide then let the unattended machines, all 200 of them growli= ng away at each other at 2 minute intervals. Operator check data base= once a year for possible hits. I am surprised it is not more popular. Over Xmas the bulk of activity was by Radio Operators on LF using= CW and QRS plus some limited MF activity again using CW. de G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Mal,=20 Some suggestions: 1.. More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than= 100 at a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together with= in just a 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propaga= tion and station performance/changes to be determined. This would lea= ve plenty of room elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband co= nversational modes.=20 2.. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it= (not UK), is of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's= not a good idea to use this mode when the band is open for really lon= g-distance DX if interference to weak signals is likely.=20 3.. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tole= rant and moan less".=20 73s and a happy New Year to all on this reflector Roger G3XBM 2010/1/2 mal hamilton I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on 508 kcs spreading over 3= kcs wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QRM to those= of us trying to listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I cannot= understand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow ban= d allocation.=20 The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swamped by beacons. Does anyone else have an opinion? G3KEV --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_0034_01CA8D56.71035C70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Sent: Monday, January 04, 201= 0 10:35=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social= ssb

Mal - GROW UP.

2010/1/4 mal hamilton <<= A href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">g3kevmal@talktalk.net&= gt;
This is fantastic news for the Ap= pliance=20 Operator. Follow a basic set up guide then let the unattended mach= ines, all=20 200 of them growling away at each other at 2 minute intervals. Ope= rator=20 check data base once a year for possible hits.
I am surprised it is not more=20 popular.
Over Xmas the bulk of activity wa= s by Radio=20 Operators on LF using CW and QRS plus some limited MF activity aga= in using=20 CW.
de G3KEV
 
-----=20 Original Message -----
From:=20 Roger Lapthorn
Sent:=20 Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM
Subject:=20 Re: LF: Anti Social ssb

Mal,

Some suggestions:
  1. More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (mor= e than 100=20 at a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together= within just=20 a 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propaga= tion and=20 station performance/changes to be determined.  This would= leave=20 plenty of room elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowba= nd=20 conversational modes.=20
  2. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it= (not UK),=20 is of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's n= ot a=20 good idea to use this mode when the band is open for really=20 long-distance DX if interference to weak signals is likely.=20
  3. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tole= rant and=20 moan less".
73s and a happy New Year to all on= this=20 reflector

Roger G3XBM




2010/1/2 mal hamilton &= lt;g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
I am afraid we have a SSB bea= con on 508 kcs=20 spreading over 3 kcs wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ= is causing=20 QRM to those of us trying to listen and work the East Coast US= A=20 stations. I cannot understand why a station is licensed to wor= k SSB in=20 such a narrow band allocation.
The 500 kcs band is a Shamble= s swamped by=20 beacons.
Does anyone else have an=20 opinion?
G3KEV
 


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