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Thanks Dave and all the other reporters / lookers. I will leave the MEPT
on all day and until well after dark for Rik and GM.

 

Dave, yes the modulation is very normal for me, 5 Hz FSK QRSS3. I will
now switch to an odd mod, 5/5/5.

 

73

 

Eddie

 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Dave G3WCB
Sent: 24 January 2010 10:49
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: QRP'p 500KHz from an Altoids tin - <report>

 

Hi, Eddie. 

 

Screenshot attached. You are "O" copy here, and I think the QRB is about
100 km. The antenna here is a 20m "Tee" at 5m, and the RX is a Wandel &
Golterman SPM-30 with a 24 Hz IF bandwidth

 

By the way, you are transmitting a hybrid QRSS-DFCW signal, which
contains elements of both modes! 

 

(With QRSS, one sends dots and dashes on a single frequency, and drop
the carrier between characters, just like regular speed CW. With Double
frequency CW, dots and dashes are equal length, but on mark and space
frequencies, and the carrier drops between letters.)

 

73, Dave G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E.England

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]On Behalf Of g3zjo
Sent: 24 January 2010 09:53
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; GQRP@yahoogroups.com
Subject: LF: FW: [Knightsqrss] QRP'p 500KHz from an Altoids tin

Hi All

 

I am running my QRPp MEPT again this morning all reports welcome. Just a
note on receiving the QRSS3. :-

 

Using Spectran in - Preset QRSS3 - from the - Mode - menu. With the
standard settings and dial on the WSPR dial frequency 502.4KHz my signal
will be around 800 on the Spectran Waterfall.

Spectran will run at the same time as WSPR so those looking for WSPR
signals can spot the evil Data and evil non qso Visual QRSS at the same
time.

 

Frequency 503.22KHz

 

Modulation QRSS3 FSK, mainly, I do vary it, maybe some periods of 5/5/5
Morse

 

Power 500mW at 50 Ohms

 

Total current consumption 96mA at 12 Volts

 

Antenna 6m Top Load Vertical

 

ERP >1mWatt 

 

 

Eddie G3ZJO IO92ng

 

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks Dave and=
 all the other reporters /
lookers. I will leave the MEPT on all day and until well after dark fo=
r Rik and
GM.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>&nbsp;</span></=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span st=
yle=3D'font-size: 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dave, yes the=
 modulation is very normal
for me, 5 Hz FSK QRSS3. I will now switch to an odd mod, </span></font=
><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.=
0pt;font-family:Arial;  color:navy'>5/5/5</span></font><font size=3D2=
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=3DTahoma><span lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tah=
oma'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b>
owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksh=
eep.org] <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>D=
ave G3WCB<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 24 January 2010=
 10:49<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: QRP'p 500K=
Hz from an
Altoids tin - &lt;report&gt;</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Hi,
Eddie. </span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Screenshot
attached. You are &quot;O&quot; copy here, and I think the QRB is abou=
t 100 km.
The antenna here is a 20m &quot;Tee&quot; at 5m, and the RX is a
Wandel&nbsp;&amp; Golterman SPM-30 with a 24 Hz IF bandwidth</span></f=
ont></p>

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=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>By the
way, you are transmitting a hybrid QRSS-DFCW signal, which contains el=
ements of
both modes! </span></font></p>

</div>

<div>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>(With
QRSS,&nbsp;one sends dots and dashes on a single frequency, and drop=
 the
carrier between characters, just like regular speed CW. With Double fr=
equency
CW, dots and dashes are equal length, but on mark and space frequencie=
s, and
the carrier drops between letters.)</span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>73, Dave
G3WCB IO91RM nr Windsor, S.E.England</span></font></p>

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ze:10.0pt;font-family: Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
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eep.org]<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>g3=
zjo<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 24 January 2010=
 09:53<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> rsgb_lf_group@black=
sheep.org;
GQRP@yahoogroups.com<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> LF: FW: [Knigh=
tsqrss]
QRP'p 500KHz from an Altoids tin</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Hi All</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>I am
running my QRPp MEPT again this morning all reports welcome. Just a no=
te on
receiving the QRSS3. :-</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Using
Spectran in - Preset QRSS3 - from the - Mode - menu. With the standard=
 settings
and dial on the WSPR dial frequency 502.4KHz my signal will be around=
 800 on
the Spectran Waterfall.</span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Spectran
will run at the same time as WSPR so those looking for WSPR signals ca=
n spot
the evil Data and evil non qso Visual QRSS at the same time.</span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont></p>

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=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Frequency
503.22KHz</span></font></p>

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=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
ont></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Modulation
QRSS3 FSK, mainly, I do vary it, maybe some periods of 5/5/5 Morse</sp=
an></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D3 face=
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<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><font size=3D2 color=
=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Power
500mW at 50 Ohms</span></font></p>

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=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
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=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Total
current consumption 96mA at 12 Volts</span></font></p>

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=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>Antenna
6m Top Load Vertical</span></font></p>

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=3D"Times New Roman"><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></f=
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=3Dblue face=3DArial><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial=
;color:blue'>ERP
&gt;1mWatt </span></font></p>

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