Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.96]) by air-dc09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDC091-86054b41b2c51b6; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 04:20:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-md12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3F2BE38003697; Mon, 4 Jan 2010 04:17:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NRj29-0006wB-PJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:15:29 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NRj27-0006w2-OA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:15:28 +0000 Received: from out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.242]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NRj21-0004kQ-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 04 Jan 2010 09:15:24 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AqIEAKlAQUtOlVWU/2dsb2JhbACNPgbEXoIigg4E X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.47,497,1257120000"; d="scan'208,217";a="415588051" Received: from unknown (HELO xphd97xgq27nyf) ([78.149.85.148]) by out1.ip06ir2.opaltelecom.net with SMTP; 04 Jan 2010 09:14:53 +0000 Message-ID: <000f01ca8d1e$5ff69010$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <005801ca8be9$fe628230$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <9afca2641001021420k5b4b5856x2dadbe35e2c87ead@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 09:14:52 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA8D1E.5F869030" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60604b41b2216d65 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA8D1E.5F869030 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This is fantastic news for the Appliance Operator. Follow a basic set= up guide then let the unattended machines, all 200 of them growling= away at each other at 2 minute intervals. Operator check data base on= ce a year for possible hits. I am surprised it is not more popular. Over Xmas the bulk of activity was by Radio Operators on LF using CW= and QRS plus some limited MF activity again using CW. de G3KEV ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Roger Lapthorn=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, January 02, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social ssb Mal,=20 Some suggestions: 1.. More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more than 100= at a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within= just a 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagati= on and station performance/changes to be determined. This would leave= plenty of room elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conv= ersational modes.=20 2.. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not= UK), is of interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a= good idea to use this mode when the band is open for really long-dist= ance DX if interference to weak signals is likely.=20 3.. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant= and moan less".=20 73s and a happy New Year to all on this reflector Roger G3XBM 2010/1/2 mal hamilton I am afraid we have a SSB beacon on 508 kcs spreading over 3 kcs= wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is causing QRM to those of us= trying to listen and work the East Coast USA stations. I cannot under= stand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a narrow band allo= cation.=20 The 500 kcs band is a Shambles swamped by beacons. Does anyone else have an opinion? G3KEV --=20 ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 ------=_NextPart_000_000C_01CA8D1E.5F869030 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This is fantastic news for the Applia= nce Operator.=20 Follow a basic set up guide then let the unattended machines, all 200= of them=20 growling away at each other at 2 minute intervals. Operator check data= base once=20 a year for possible hits.
I am surprised it is not more popular= .
Over Xmas the bulk of activity was by= Radio=20 Operators on LF using CW and QRS plus some limited MF activity again= using=20 CW.
de G3KEV
 
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Sent: Saturday, January 02,= 2010 10:20=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: Anti Social= ssb

Mal,

Some suggestions:
  1. More people should use WSPR - lots of stations (more th= an 100 at=20 a time based on 10MHz usage) are able to operate together within= just a=20 200Hz slice of the band allowing very useful data on propagation= and station=20 performance/changes to be determined.  This would leave plent= y of room=20 elsewhere in the band for CW and other narrowband conversational= modes.=20
  2. Occasional testing with SSB, for those allowed to use it (not= UK), is of=20 interest to me as a listener, but I agree that it's not a= good idea=20 to use this mode when the band is open for really long-distance DX= if=20 interference to weak signals is likely.=20
  3. You should try a New Year resolution: "I will be more tolerant= and moan=20 less".
73s and a happy New Year to all on this=20 reflector

Roger G3XBM




2010/1/2 mal hamilton <<= A href=3D"mailto:g3kevmal@talktalk.net">g3kevmal@talktalk.net&= gt;
I am afraid we have a SSB beacon= on 508 kcs=20 spreading over 3 kcs wide and S9 plus with me. Beacon SM6BHZ is ca= using QRM=20 to those of us trying to listen and work the East Coast USA statio= ns. I=20 cannot understand why a station is licensed to work SSB in such a= narrow=20 band allocation.
The 500 kcs band is a Shambles sw= amped by=20 beacons.
Does anyone else have an opinion?=
G3KEV
 



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