Return-Path: Received: from rly-md07.mx.aol.com (rly-md07.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.145]) by air-md09.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD092-9174b20de1f326; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:40:33 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD077-9174b20de1f326; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:40:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NIhMg-0001wt-GN for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:39:22 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NIhMf-0001wk-W0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:39:22 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.40]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NIhMc-00083d-LA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:39:21 +0000 Received: from BLU146-DS6 ([65.55.116.7]) by blu0-omc1-s29.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 10 Dec 2009 03:39:11 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [117.12.234.152] X-Originating-Email: [hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com] Message-ID: From: To: References: <57a24ca70912090730q682ffc79g7ffa9582e0cc40fa@mail.gmail.com> <20091210100700.32DEC31E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <1260444821.6353.65.camel@vaio3rd> In-Reply-To: <1260444821.6353.65.camel@vaio3rd> Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:39:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Dec 2009 11:39:11.0846 (UTC) FILETIME=[64973060:01CA798D] X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55 Subject: Re: LF: AW: TX-2200A Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Look forward to seeing the Signals Rik - The 13th will be my last weekend of Ops in China, and will be returning to Oklahoma in January ,,,,,,, Laurence KL 1 X in BY3A -------------------------------------------------- From: "Rick Wakatori" <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:33 AM To: Subject: Re: LF: AW: TX-2200A > I agree Rik's observation on the 100W limitation. > > Average CW operator is a KEY-technician without any science. > A good earth is essencial for LF operation, otherwise would get LF shock > at frame of transmitter. > Linear amplifier is based on self responsibility. > > There is another reason in a market place for such tranceiver in JP. > 100W/50W machine has much wider, say 100 times, of market place than 1KW > machine. > > In any way, there is still a high wall in front of a operator who > bought the machine, such tuner, good earth, good antenna and etc. > > In any way, I will operate QRSS60 using TX2200A/50W at 137780Hz+-1Hz in > a peak of peninsular from 01:00UTC to 02:30UTC on coming Sunday,December > 13,20 or 27 depending on crimate. > 73, > -- > -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) > URL=http://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 11:07 +0100, Rik Strobbe wrote: >> Stefan, >> >> there is one good reason to limit the output >> power 100W: more power could become lethal (high antenna voltages / >> currents). >> The "black box operators" must be protected >> against this danger, otherwise they might go QRT due to "natural >> selection" :-) >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >> >> At 10:19 10/12/2009, you wrote: >> >Warren, LF, >> >Tnx for the info! >> >I am not "afraid" that now many OMs come on the >> >band who just bought their rig, like on HF. Even >> >if you could buy a loading coil, you never will >> >get qrv satisfactorily cause you always have to >> >consider many things like the earth, the local >> >noise reduction, the impedance transformation to 50 Ohm and so on. >> >These OMs, even if they could buy a automatic >> >tuner (that would not be easy to create as a >> >commercial product) for LF, would be frustrated >> >soon cause there are no contests and no 100s of >> >stns calling on the band ;-) They would say "LF >> >is dead, just nerving qrm" and would never get >> >the fascination that we all experience. >> >Finally I don't understand why this PA has just >> >100W. To reach 1W ERP, most LFers have to apply >> >1kW and more, so 100W is QRP on LF ;-). 1kW can >> >easily be reached on LF without using expensive >> >special transistors and drivers and ferrite >> >cores. E.g. with one simple IRFP360 we can built >> >a 1kW high efficiency calss d or e PA that costs not even 50€... >> >These difficulties to get qrv is one part of the >> >LF hobby and if they are solved, one can be glad >> >even without doing 100s of qsos in one evening :-) >> > >> >Stefan / DK7FC >> >-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> >Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Warren >> >Ziegler >> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2009 16:30 >> >An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >Betreff: LF: TX-2200A >> > >> >Interesting new rig offered by Waters and Stanton - the TX-2200A 100 >> >Watt class D transmitter for 136kHz - VFO controlled with receiver >> >muting. >> >Made in Japan, relatively pricey though at 690 GBP! >> > >> >http://wsplc.com/pdf/TX-2200A.pdf >> > >> > >> > >> >73 Warren K2ORS >> > WD2XGJ >> > WD2XSH/23 >> > WE2XEB/2 >> > WE2XGR/1 >> >> > > > >