Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (rly-dg05.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.89]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG021-5ca4b276bdc75; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:58:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG057-5ca4b276bdc75; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 05:58:38 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NKV4Z-0001GY-4U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:56:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NKV4Y-0001GP-Ox for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:56:06 +0000 Received: from fmmailgate09.web.de ([217.72.192.184]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NKV5s-0004M7-7Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 10:57:30 +0000 Received: from web.de by fmmailgate09.web.de (Postfix) with SMTP id C80392B44719 for ; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:57:37 +0100 (CET) Received: from [78.55.16.153] by freemailng6505.web.de with HTTP; Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:57:37 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2009 11:57:37 +0100 Message-Id: <993182564@web.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 From: di2am@web.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Organization: http://freemail.web.de/ X-Provags-Id: V01U2FsdGVkX1/tTaLJusl1ICWyEISf3pTVjhxl1Ji1q5MLToFv/r1hkFbJy pjDEEETe6f/oTbhze3xS8CCBXdcGyaWq9rG8mIQgomYzMQ4FhE= X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,NO_REAL_NAME=0.55,UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: "Gain" between qrss3 and qrss10? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear all, > Von: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > If the "gain" or better said SNR between qrss30 and qrss3 is 10dB, so=20 > can I do a QSO to VK with 1W TX Power and an antenna efficiency of 1/ > 1000 if I choose QRSS10000000000? That=92s a litte jokingly=20 > formulated but you know what I mean. In other words, where are the=20 > limitations of this rule?=20 The variability of the channel properties and your life expectancy (hi) ... > What is the maximum power that is applied to an antenna yet? What=20 > have you heard yet? I have applied 1kW in a bad antenna (=3D> abt 100mW= =20 > ERP), so 10kW would be possible when considering to stay in the legal=20 > limit. 10kW would be possible since one doesn't need a ferrite core=20 > that has to keep the power (in Class E mode). In USA it would be even=20 > more easy due to the fact that the 110V of the mains could just be=20 > rectified. Then I would take some STW12NK90Zin parallel and a=20 > IXDD414and try it with 15A antenna current ;-) > Sorry, but in that hobby it is really easy to become euphoric=85 You've nicely demonstrated the nonsense of the 1W ERP legal limit regs. The 200 W TX output on LF and 100 W TX output on MF the norwegian authorities permitted seem to be by far more reasonable to me. 73 Joerg, DL3NRV