Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.78]) by air-de08.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDE083-5ec04b37502e1a5; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:16:46 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mc06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1E533380000A8; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 07:16:45 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NOs2G-0002BS-5v for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:15:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NOs2F-0002BJ-9F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:15:47 +0000 Received: from smtp5.freeserve.com ([193.252.22.151] helo=smtp6.freeserve.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NOs2C-0000Ip-88 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:15:47 +0000 Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3502.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 9963B7000041 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:15:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from me-wanadoo.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mwinf3502.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with ESMTP id 893DF7000046 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:15:38 +0100 (CET) Received: from AGB (unknown [91.110.66.170]) by mwinf3502.me.freeserve.com (SMTP Server) with SMTP id 91E987000041 for ; Sun, 27 Dec 2009 13:15:35 +0100 (CET) X-ME-UUID: 20091227121535597.91E987000041@mwinf3502.me.freeserve.com Message-ID: <5BA37E0D20C445E8B9DF2E3479E216D2@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <20091226.144128.11516.4.cw4ever4@juno.com> <007601ca86d3$2b3670d0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> <00a101ca86d7$5998fed0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> In-Reply-To: <00a101ca86d7$5998fed0$0201a8c0@Clemens04> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 12:15:34 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8089.726 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8089.726 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_FONT_BIG=0.256,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon & WSPR 2.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01CA86EE.4ACC93A0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=CLICK_BELOW,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONT_BIG,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604e4b37502d54e2 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01CA86EE.4ACC93A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Paul ... no problem ...=20 Google-=DCbersetzung heilt alle 73 - G ,,=20 From: Clemens Paul=20 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:31 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon & WSPR 2.0 LF, Sorry,my last email (see also below) was not intended to be sent to th= e list, but to DF6MK. I would not post in German language on an anglophone reflector althoug= h I've noticed great tolerance on this list in this respect.=20 Anyway,I've also noted the <...> decodes a few times while spotting WD2XSH/17 and was a bit surprised,too, but then correct decodes took place. It seems that WSPR2.0 still cannot write callsigns like WD2XSH/17 into= the blue window in the upper right corner of the WSPR window.=20 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Clemens Paul=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 10:01 AM Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon & WSPR 2.0 Hallo Werner, genau die zitierte Passage aus dem untenstehen Txt traf bei mir=20 ein paar Mal auch zu. >It takes two, 2 minute transmissions to send >the full call, grid, and power. You may see decodes that look lik= e > <...> followed by the grid and/or power. WSPR has not decoded th= e call >yet but only the second part of the complete message. With a margin= al >signal and fades, this may be all you will get. I don't know how= long it >stores the second half (or the first half) of the message to splice= it 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Robert H Reif=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 8:41 PM Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon & WSPR 2.0 Hello, Graham, Rik, and All, Joe K1JT was kind enough to modify the WSPR program to acco= mmodate our long calls with the /. It takes two, 2 minute transmissions= to send the full call, grid, and power. You may see decodes that look li= ke <...> followed by the grid and/or power. WSPR has not decoded the= call yet but only the second part of the complete message. With a margi= nal signal and fades, this may be all you will get. I don't know how= long it stores the second half (or the first half) of the message to splic= e it together. Joe also added the CW ID feature to version 2.0 which= is required by our experimental license. He has been very supportive= of our 600 meter efforts. =20 The set up here is 100 watts to a wire, 35 ft inverted L wit= h two top loading wires each about 100 ft long. I am really surprised= (and pleased) to get across with this setup. I am inland from the coas= t and the path to Eu is over land till the path goes over salt water off= the coast of New Brunswick, Canada. Want to raise the antenna a bit= more and increase the top loading but that may not happen till spring now.= =20 73 and Happy New Year. Bob WD2XSH/37 FN42fo=20 On Sat, 26 Dec 2009 18:34:15 +0100 Rik Strobbe writes: > Graham, Rick, Bob, >=20 > I guess that when the CW id of a WSPR station is audible there= =20 > should =20 > be solid copy in WSPR. > But, as mentioned by Bob, WSPR 2.0 was used to transmit the unus= ual =20 >=20 > WD2XSH/37 callsign. I noticed that older version of WSPR do not= copy=20 > =20 > this properly, even when the signal is strong. > I have been running WSPR2 and WSPR1.1 simultaniously for some da= ys =20 >=20 > (the first spotting as ON7YD the other as OR7T) and noticed that= =20 > WD2XSH/37 produced all kinds of odd messages with WSPR1.1. WSPR2= =20 > decodes OK. >=20 > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >=20 > Quoting Graham : >=20 > > Rick, > > > > Looks like wd2x .. was the station .. you can check what= =20 > stations are > > operating at : http://wsprnet.org/drupal/wsprnet/spots > > > > 2009-12-24 03:38 WD2XSH/37 0.503912 -26 0 FN42fo = 2 =20 > ON7YD > > JO20ix 5615 52 > > > > G.. > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: "Rick Wakatori" <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> > > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:39 AM > > To: > > Subject: LF: "WA" beacon received at 503kHz. > > > >> > >> Using WSPR, I heard "WA" beacon in CW or QRSS at around 503kH= z. > >> The signal was visible on the screen during last night. > >> Please let me know the callsign and the QTH? > >> Rick > >> -- > >> -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > >> 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) > >> URL=3Dhttp://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > >> -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 ____________________________________________________________ Weight Loss Program Best Weight Loss Program - Click Here! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/c?cp=3Dyi9iW2lTPi_FlJuAPb= ZNdQAAJ1D5rfaR-77IPsUFbn2LcZ2XAAYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA= AAAEUgAAAAA=3D=20 ----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ Eingehende eMail ist virenfrei. 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Paul ... no problem ...
 
 
Google-=DCbersetzung heilt=20 alle
 
 
73 - G ,,

Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 9:31 AM
Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon & WSPR 2.0

LF,
 
Sorry,my last email (see also be= low) was not=20 intended to be sent to the list, but to
DF6MK.
I would not post in German langu= age on an=20 anglophone reflector although
I've noticed great tolerance on this= list in this=20 respect. 
 
Anyway,I've also noted the  <...> decodes a few times= =20 while
spotting WD2XSH/17 and was a bit surprised,too,
but then correct decodes took place.
It seems that WSPR2.0 still cannot write callsigns like WD2XSH/17=  into=20 the
blue window in the upper right corner of the WSPR window.&nb= sp;
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, December 27, 20= 09 10:01=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beacon= & WSPR=20 2.0

Hallo Werner,
 
genau die zitierte Passage aus dem= untenstehen=20 Txt traf bei mir
ein paar  Mal auch zu.<= /DIV>
 
 >It takes two, 2 minute transmissions to send
>t= he full=20 call, grid, and power.  You may see decodes  that look=20 like
>  <...> followed by the grid and/or power.&nb= sp; WSPR=20 has not decoded the call
>yet but only the second part of the= complete=20 message. With a marginal
>signal and fades, this may be all yo= u will=20 get.  I don't know how long it
>stores the second half (o= r the=20 first half) of the message to splice it
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Rob= ert H Reif=20
Sent: Saturday, December 26= , 2009 8:41=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: "WA" beaco= n & WSPR=20 2.0

Hello, Graham, Rik, and=20 All,
       Joe K1JT was kind eno= ugh to=20 modify the WSPR program to accommodate
our long calls with the= /. =20 It takes two, 2 minute transmissions to send
the full call, gri= d, and=20 power.  You may see decodes  that look like
<...&g= t;=20 followed by the grid and/or power.  WSPR has not decoded the= =20 call
yet but only the second part of the complete message. With= a=20 marginal
signal and fades, this may be all you will get. = I don't=20 know how long it
stores the second half (or the first half) of= the=20 message to splice it
together.  Joe also added the = CW ID=20 feature to version 2.0 which is
required by our experimental=20 license.  He has been very supportive of our
600 meter=20 efforts. 
     The set up here is 100= watts to=20 a  wire, 35 ft inverted L with two
top loading wires each= about 100=20 ft  long.  I am really surprised (and
pleased) to get= across=20 with this setup.  I am inland from the coast and
the path= to Eu is=20 over land till the path goes over salt water off the
coast of= New=20 Brunswick, Canada.  Want to raise the antenna a bit more=20 and
increase the top loading but that may not happen till sprin= g=20 now. 
     73 and Happy New Year.&nbs= p;=20 Bob  WD2XSH/37  FN42fo



On Sat, 26 Dec 20= 09=20 18:34:15 +0100 Rik Strobbe
<Rik.Strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be>=20 writes:
> Graham, Rick, Bob,
>
> I guess that= when the CW=20 id of a WSPR station is audible there
> should 
&g= t; be=20 solid copy in WSPR.
> But, as mentioned by Bob, WSPR 2.0 was= used to=20 transmit the unusual 
>
> WD2XSH/37 callsign.= I noticed=20 that older version of WSPR do not copy
> 
> thi= s=20 properly, even when the signal is strong.
> I have been runn= ing WSPR2=20 and WSPR1.1 simultaniously for some days 
>
>= (the first=20 spotting as ON7YD the other as OR7T) and noticed that 
&g= t;=20 WD2XSH/37 produced all kinds of odd messages with WSPR1.1. WSPR2&n= bsp;=20
> decodes OK.
>
> 73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T>=20
> Quoting Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>:
>=20
> > Rick,
> >
> > Looks like  wd2= x=20 ..   was the  station .. you  can  check= what=20
> stations are
> > operating at :  http://wsprnet.org/d= rupal/wsprnet/spots
>=20 >
> > 2009-12-24 03:38   WD2XSH/37 &nbs= p;=20 0.503912   -26   0   FN42fo &nb= sp;=20 2  
> ON7YD
> > JO20ix  =20 5615   52
> >
> > G..
> >
= > >=20 --------------------------------------------------
> > Fr= om: "Rick=20 Wakatori" <7= l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>
>=20 > Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2009 10:39 AM
> > To:= <rsgb_lf_gro= up@blacksheep.org>
>=20 > Subject: LF: "WA" beacon received at 503kHz.
> >
= >=20 >>
> >> Using WSPR, I heard "WA" beacon in CW or= QRSS at=20 around 503kHz.
> >> The signal was visible on the scre= en during=20 last night.
> >> Please let me know the callsign and= the=20 QTH?
> >> Rick
> >> --
> >> -.= . . =20 --...  .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-.
> >> 7L1RLL= under=20 ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP)
> >>=20 URL=3Dhttp://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html
> >&= gt; -..---=20 -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-.
> >>
>= =20 >>
> >>
> >
> >
> >>=20 >
>
>
>
>
>=20
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