Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (rly-mb12.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.170]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMB043-d414b38c3934c; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:41:31 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB125-d414b38c3934c; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 09:41:24 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NPGlr-0005Me-KF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:40:31 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NPGlq-0005MR-VJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:40:30 +0000 Received: from lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NPGlo-0006eZ-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 14:40:30 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx500.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nBS4Zbmn025351 for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 05:35:37 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:40:27 +0100 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Date: Mon, 28 Dec 2009 15:40:27 +0100 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AD09@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: AW: LF: Influence of a TX antenna to a small rx antenna Thread-Index: AcqG736zyDCWq77xSZ+rbnrQuqAn5wA24U6g From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.648;28.12.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.12.28.142417 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: AW: AW: LF: Influence of a TX antenna to a small rx antenna X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hi Ken,=20 Yes, there is a strong interaction. In principle my active antenna does no= t differ to the PA0RDT Whip. But the dimension of the interaction depends on the kind of your TX antenn= a. I think a high vertical does more interact than I short vertical with= many toploads, as long as the RX ant is not placed under these toploads..= . 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: See the pic of my last report to get an impression of the interaction.= .. -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Ken Gesendet: Sonntag, 27. Dezember 2009 13:21 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: Re: AW: LF: Influence of a TX antenna to a small rx antenna Hello Alan. A very interesting paper of yours, is it likely that there will be the sam= e=20 interaction between a T antenna and the PA0RDT Mini Whip? 73. Ken M0KHW ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "ALAN MELIA" To: Sent: Sunday, December 27, 2009 11:51 AM Subject: Re: AW: LF: Influence of a TX antenna to a small rx antenna Hi Stefan I hope it does not give you indigestion :-)) Good luck with it.....all LF sites are different so in general require=20 different detailed solutions. It seemed generally to be sufficient to=20 de-tune the unused antenna to reduce the interaction to low levels. Best Wishes for Dx in the New Year Alan G3NYK --- On Sun, 27/12/09, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrot= e: > From: Stefan Sch=E4fer > Subject: AW: LF: Influence of a TX antenna to a small rx antenna > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Date: Sunday, 27 December, 2009, 10:55 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi > Alan, tnx, i have > printed your article and will read it now at breakfast > ;-) > > > > Perhaps > I will come back > with some questions... J > > > > 73, > Stefan/DK7FC > > -----Urspr=FCngliche > Nachricht----- > > Von: > owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von ALAN > MELIA > > Gesendet: > Sonntag, 27. Dezember > 2009 01:32 > > An: > rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > Betreff: Re: > LF: Influence of a TX > antenna to a small rx antenna > > > > > > > > > Hi Stephan yes the aerialls will > be very close > compared with the wavelength so they will interact > particularly is tuned. We > did some measurements ar Finbar's location several > years ago > > http://www.alan.melia.btinternet.co.uk/aecouple.htm > > > > The interaction was measured on an antenna RF > bridge, and demonstrates > the coupling between two wires. > > > > Best Wishes > > Alan G3NYK > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >