Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (rly-mg09.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.115]) by air-mg10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMG104-a314b2a56bb2f9; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:05:36 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG093-a314b2a56bb2f9; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:05:17 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NLImW-0007Bi-T6 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:00:48 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NLImW-0007BZ-DZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:00:48 +0000 Received: from smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com ([195.200.78.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NLIos-0005Jm-B3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:03:16 +0000 Received: (qmail 11137 invoked by uid 507); 17 Dec 2009 17:03:24 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO JR) (john.rabson@numeo.fr@217.67.155.178) by smtp.qtxt.dns-iol.com with SMTP; 17 Dec 2009 17:03:24 +0100 Message-ID: <200912171703320369.1D457178@smtp2.numeo.fr> In-Reply-To: <1260202597.4b1d2a65f3b5c@imp.netikka.net> References: <1260202597.4b1d2a65f3b5c@imp.netikka.net> X-Mailer: Courier 3.50.00.09.1098 (http://www.rosecitysoftware.com) (P) Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:03:32 +0100 From: "John RABSON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Broadcast audio splatter on 136kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I have been hearing this during the paast week, both after dark and in day= light. It coincides with a strong signal here from Lakihegy, but I do not= say the Hungarian transmission causes it. John Rabson=20 F5VLF 58800 Cervon France JN17vg *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 07/12/2009 at 18:16 Paul-Henrik wrote: >LF > >Does anybody else on the reflector suffer from BC-splatter on 136kHz? It >has >been a regular occurance here lately after dark. After some identificatio= n >work >I have a match on the running programmes on 171 and 225kHz, 225kHz being >the >stronger. > >I blamed my RX chain at first and started to eliminate IMD possibilities >but >even now using a passive antenna and a very sharp bandpass filter (much >like an >IF-filter for a valve BC-set) I still have the BC splatter. > >So far I have not been able to determine the carrier frequency of this >"phantom >station" but it must be close to the carrier of Lakihegy. Using AM >detection >with a narrow filter it seems centered around 135.4kHz. Sounds like two >BC-stations on top of eachother and the USB reaches up in the amateur ban= d >making "ghost whispers". > >Luxembourg effect, transmitter IMD or just me missing the point? The >bandpass >filter is very effective and there are only weak traces of signals above >150kHz. > > >BR > >Paul-Henrik, OH1LSQ