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Hi All,

As someone who used to be professionally engaged in negotiating with the
aforesaid regulator in its many incarnations/reincarnations prior to
becoming Ofcomm, believe me it ain't easy!

However, it is appreciated that each country and legislation, have their
own (sometimes peculiar) approaches to the problems posed by demanding
spectrum allocation.

Some of us are extremely fortunate to have the talented and tenacious
advocates that achieve so much against often quite incredible pressures
from other interests.

What is often forgotten is that some of these guys are doing this work
unrewarded, in their own time and sometimes at odds with the commercial
interests of their employers!

For obvious reasons they cannot say this stuff on their own behalf but
maybe, at this seasonal time we can all raise a glass and say THANK YOU!




On Fri, 2009-12-18 at 18:20 +0000, Graham wrote:
> Tnx Walter 
>  
> Yes , we seem to of done  quite  well  considering , I think the  only
> gray area was the  approach / marketing of the  allocation where as
> operations where  initially  viewed as a  follow  on from  136 and as
> such its possible that  it  did  not  attract a wider response, where
> as it  very  soon became  apparent that  the  band  was more  similar
> to  1.8 MHz in terms  of  coverage  and the  requirements  for large
> arrays  and  power level did  not  materialise and in fact the compact
> array has  provided  most if not  all of the Dx worked on the  band to
> date , ''even''  Gus  is using a  antenna  system that is within
> the  boundary  of his own  house  and is  still fractional compared to
> the  wave length, once I had  modified my old  80  ft total inverted L
> with  loading  coil and  top  capacity  section , 50  to  100 watts
> provided  amazing  coverage  and performance on 1.8 & 3.5  also
> increased  significantly .. unintended consequence ! 
>  
> Back in the  1970's  a old friend of mine , long passed,  who
> introduced me to vhf  radio  2 & 4 mtr  am  G3SX  always  maintained
> that the  500 K / 600  mtr  band was the  original armature band in
> the  period  between the  1914/1945 war's  and the  marine  service,
> once spark had been  phased out , took over the  band  and  forced the
> armature  operation  hf to the  new fangled  1.8 and  higher 
>  
> So may be the  tapping  gang where just keeping it  free  for us
> after all  .. 70  years  was long  enough !
>  
> 73 - G .. 
> 
> 
> From: Walter und Marianne Staubach 
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 5:38 PM
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
> Subject: LF: Re: UK - Update - Special Research Permits (501 to 504
> kHz band)
> 
> 
> Congrats to All on MF in G-Land. I would like we had RSGB and OFCOM in
> Germany.
> Merry Christmas
> Walter DI2AG / DJ2LF
>  
>         ----- Original Message ----- 
>         From: M0FMT 
>         To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org 
>         Sent: Friday, December 18, 2009 12:39 PM
>         Subject: LF: UK - Update - Special Research Permits (501 to
>         504 kHz band)
>         
>         
>         FYI       16|12|09
>         Update - Special Research Permits (501 to 504 kHz band)
>         Following representations made by the Radio Society of Great
>         Britain and negotiations by Ofcom with the Maritime and
>         Coastguard Agency, Ofcom has decided to extend the period of
>         Notices of Variation (NoVs) to the licence for operation in
>         the 501 to 504 kHz band until 29 February 2012. The maximum
>         effective radiated power (e.r.p.) limit is maintained at 10
>         dBW (10 W). Existing NoVs are due to expire at the end of
>         February 2010. 
>         There have been no reports of interference and investigation
>         has shown that a radiated power of 10 dBW is not likely to
>         cause interference. Moreover, NoV holders are permitted to
>         operate only subject to causing no interference. 
>         Special Research Permits under a Notice of Variation to the
>         Licence are made available to holders of Full Amateur Licences
>         on a case by case basis to applicants who can demonstrate a
>         genuine interest in experimentation at these frequencies and
>         provide adequate supporting documentation for assessment. 
>         Due to the usage of the spectrum around the 500 kHz bands,
>         applicants should pay special attention to demonstrating
>         technical and operational competence in terms of transmitting
>         within the frequency band and Effective Radiated Power
>         (e.r.p.) parameters agreed with Ofcom. Previous experience at
>         73 kHz as well as 136 kHz will be considered desirable in this
>         respect to ensure adequate steps are taken to limit any
>         potential interference. 
>         Ofcom will monitor any interference reports and also consider
>         limiting numbers if necessary in reviewing operation in the
>         band. On no account will an e.r.p. level of greater than 10
>         dBW be permitted under any circumstance. 
>         The standard application form (OfW306) for a Special Research
>         Permit can be downloaded at:
>         http://www.ofcom.org.uk/radiocomms/ifi/licensing/classes/amateur/applications/ofw306.pdf 
>         A fresh NoV will automatically be issued to existing NoV
>         holders; new applications are not required in this instance.
>         Should a fresh NoV not be required or if you are in possession
>         of an NoV which is not required, please inform the Ofcom
>         Licensing Centre stating your name, call sign and Licence
>         number preferably by e-mail to licensingcentre@ofcom.org.uk or
>         alternatively by post to the address at the end of the text. 
>         Form OfW306 is also available on request from the Ofcom
>         Licensing Centre at: 
>         Ofcom Licensing Centre 
>         Amateur Radio
>         Riverside House
>         2a Southwark Bridge Road
>         London SE1 9HA 
>         Tel: 020 7981 3131 
>         
>         73 es GL petefmt
>         
> 
> 
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73 es gd dx de pat g4gvw
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(east coast, county of suffolk)