Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (rly-dd03.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.150]) by air-dd07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD072-b6c4b20f0c3156; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:00:12 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd03.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD036-b6c4b20f0c3156; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 07:59:49 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NIibW-0002Hy-GJ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:58:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NIibV-0002Hp-Tv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:58:45 +0000 Received: from msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp ([202.233.11.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>) id 1NIibT-0002lD-VU for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 12:58:45 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (d25.HkanagawaFL59.vectant.ne.jp [122.103.154.25]) by msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81D8134BDC for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:58:40 +0900 (JST) From: Rick Wakatori <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: References: <57a24ca70912090730q682ffc79g7ffa9582e0cc40fa@mail.gmail.com> <20091210100700.32DEC31E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <1260444821.6353.65.camel@vaio3rd> Organization: RLL Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 21:58:41 +0900 Message-Id: <1260449921.6353.77.camel@vaio3rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: AW: TX-2200A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Hi Laurence and the others, OKay. I will operate QRSS60 at 137780Hz as long as possible on 13th December. My antenna at there will be much suitable than usual. 73, Rick --=20 -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) URL=3Dhttp://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 11:39 +0000, hellozerohellozero@hotmail.com wrote: > Look forward to seeing the Signals Rik - The 13th will be my last weeken= d of=20 > Ops in China, and will be returning to Oklahoma in January ,,,,,,, >=20 > Laurence KL 1 X in BY3A >=20 >=20 >=20 > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Rick Wakatori" <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:33 AM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: AW: TX-2200A >=20 > > I agree Rik's observation on the 100W limitation. > > > > Average CW operator is a KEY-technician without any science. > > A good earth is essencial for LF operation, otherwise would get LF sho= ck > > at frame of transmitter. > > Linear amplifier is based on self responsibility. > > > > There is another reason in a market place for such tranceiver in JP. > > 100W/50W machine has much wider, say 100 times, of market place than= 1KW > > machine. > > > > In any way, there is still a high wall in front of a operator who > > bought the machine, such tuner, good earth, good antenna and etc. > > > > In any way, I will operate QRSS60 using TX2200A/50W at 137780Hz+-1Hz= in > > a peak of peninsular from 01:00UTC to 02:30UTC on coming Sunday,Decemb= er > > 13,20 or 27 depending on crimate. > > 73, > > --=20 > > -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. > > 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) > > URL=3Dhttp://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html > > -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. > > On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 11:07 +0100, Rik Strobbe wrote: > >> Stefan, > >> > >> there is one good reason to limit the output > >> power 100W: more power could become lethal (high antenna voltages /= =20 > >> currents). > >> The "black box operators" must be protected > >> against this danger, otherwise they might go QRT due to "natural=20 > >> selection" :-) > >> > >> 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > >> > >> At 10:19 10/12/2009, you wrote: > >> >Warren, LF, > >> >Tnx for the info! > >> >I am not "afraid" that now many OMs come on the > >> >band who just bought their rig, like on HF. Even > >> >if you could buy a loading coil, you never will > >> >get qrv satisfactorily cause you always have to > >> >consider many things like the earth, the local > >> >noise reduction, the impedance transformation to 50 Ohm and so on. > >> >These OMs, even if they could buy a automatic > >> >tuner (that would not be easy to create as a > >> >commercial product) for LF, would be frustrated > >> >soon cause there are no contests and no 100s of > >> >stns calling on the band ;-) They would say "LF > >> >is dead, just nerving qrm" and would never get > >> >the fascination that we all experience. > >> >Finally I don't understand why this PA has just > >> >100W. To reach 1W ERP, most LFers have to apply > >> >1kW and more, so 100W is QRP on LF ;-). 1kW can > >> >easily be reached on LF without using expensive > >> >special transistors and drivers and ferrite > >> >cores. E.g. with one simple IRFP360 we can built > >> >a 1kW high efficiency calss d or e PA that costs not even 50=E2=82= =AC... > >> >These difficulties to get qrv is one part of the > >> >LF hobby and if they are solved, one can be glad > >> >even without doing 100s of qsos in one evening :-) > >> > > >> >Stefan / DK7FC > >> >-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > >> >Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >> >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Warren=20 > >> >Ziegler > >> >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2009 16:30 > >> >An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >> >Betreff: LF: TX-2200A > >> > > >> >Interesting new rig offered by Waters and Stanton - the TX-2200A 100 > >> >Watt class D transmitter for 136kHz - VFO controlled with receiver > >> >muting. > >> >Made in Japan, relatively pricey though at 690 GBP! > >> > > >> >http://wsplc.com/pdf/TX-2200A.pdf > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >73 Warren K2ORS > >> > WD2XGJ > >> > WD2XSH/23 > >> > WE2XEB/2 > >> > WE2XGR/1 > >> > >> > > > > > > > >=20 >=20