Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (rly-dg09.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.93]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDG073-5ee4b20dcced9; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:34:54 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG093-5ee4b20dcced9; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 06:34:40 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NIhHG-0001hA-W5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:33:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NIhHG-0001h1-Hr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:33:46 +0000 Received: from msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp ([202.233.11.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp>) id 1NIhHE-0002FL-VR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 11:33:46 +0000 Received: from [192.168.1.5] (d25.HkanagawaFL59.vectant.ne.jp [122.103.154.25]) by msa-k1.u-netsurf.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4522934BDA for ; Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:33:41 +0900 (JST) From: Rick Wakatori <7l1rll@dp.u-netsurf.ne.jp> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <20091210100700.32DEC31E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> References: <57a24ca70912090730q682ffc79g7ffa9582e0cc40fa@mail.gmail.com> <20091210100700.32DEC31E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> Organization: RLL Date: Thu, 10 Dec 2009 20:33:41 +0900 Message-Id: <1260444821.6353.65.camel@vaio3rd> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.22.3.1 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: AW: TX-2200A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_HAS_MIXED_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 I agree Rik's observation on the 100W limitation. Average CW operator is a KEY-technician without any science. A good earth is essencial for LF operation, otherwise would get LF shock at frame of transmitter. Linear amplifier is based on self responsibility. There is another reason in a market place for such tranceiver in JP. 100W/50W machine has much wider, say 100 times, of market place than 1KW machine. In any way, there is still a high wall in front of a operator who bought the machine, such tuner, good earth, good antenna and etc.=20 In any way, I will operate QRSS60 using TX2200A/50W at 137780Hz+-1Hz in a peak of peninsular from 01:00UTC to 02:30UTC on coming Sunday,December 13,20 or 27 depending on crimate. 73, --=20 -.. . --... .-.. .---- .-. .-.. .-.. .-.-. 7L1RLL under ubuntu/Linux in Kawasaki,Japan(JP) URL=3Dhttp://www1.u-netsurf.ne.jp/~7l1rll/radio.html -..--- -.- .-.. ..-.. --. --. ...- .-... ...-. On Thu, 2009-12-10 at 11:07 +0100, Rik Strobbe wrote: > Stefan, >=20 > there is one good reason to limit the output=20 > power 100W: more power could become lethal (high antenna voltages / curr= ents). > The "black box operators" must be protected=20 > against this danger, otherwise they might go QRT due to "natural selecti= on" :-) >=20 > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T >=20 > At 10:19 10/12/2009, you wrote: > >Warren, LF, > >Tnx for the info! > >I am not "afraid" that now many OMs come on the=20 > >band who just bought their rig, like on HF. Even=20 > >if you could buy a loading coil, you never will=20 > >get qrv satisfactorily cause you always have to=20 > >consider many things like the earth, the local=20 > >noise reduction, the impedance transformation to 50 Ohm and so on. > >These OMs, even if they could buy a automatic=20 > >tuner (that would not be easy to create as a=20 > >commercial product) for LF, would be frustrated=20 > >soon cause there are no contests and no 100s of=20 > >stns calling on the band ;-) They would say "LF=20 > >is dead, just nerving qrm" and would never get=20 > >the fascination that we all experience. > >Finally I don't understand why this PA has just=20 > >100W. To reach 1W ERP, most LFers have to apply=20 > >1kW and more, so 100W is QRP on LF ;-). 1kW can=20 > >easily be reached on LF without using expensive=20 > >special transistors and drivers and ferrite=20 > >cores. E.g. with one simple IRFP360 we can built=20 > >a 1kW high efficiency calss d or e PA that costs not even 50=E2=82=AC..= . > >These difficulties to get qrv is one part of the=20 > >LF hobby and if they are solved, one can be glad=20 > >even without doing 100s of qsos in one evening :-) > > > >Stefan / DK7FC > >-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > >Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 > >[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Warren Ziegl= er > >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 9. Dezember 2009 16:30 > >An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > >Betreff: LF: TX-2200A > > > >Interesting new rig offered by Waters and Stanton - the TX-2200A 100 > >Watt class D transmitter for 136kHz - VFO controlled with receiver > >muting. > >Made in Japan, relatively pricey though at 690 GBP! > > > >http://wsplc.com/pdf/TX-2200A.pdf > > > > > > > >73 Warren K2ORS > > WD2XGJ > > WD2XSH/23 > > WE2XEB/2 > > WE2XGR/1 >=20 >=20