Return-Path: Received: from rly-df05.mx.aol.com (rly-df05.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.18]) by air-df08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF083-5524b059ff12b1; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:44:05 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF057-5524b059ff12b1; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 14:43:47 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCty-0002bG-JG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NBCty-0002b7-5H for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: from gv-out-0910.google.com ([216.239.58.190]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NBCtx-0001r3-Bu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:46 +0000 Received: by gv-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id c6so499112gvd.38 for ; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=uZjacJOrJgQ9H1o2WQoRHqBvZ55TPlBtpQRBpbxrD1I=; b=Uqu16h6ZFXeeFbCeYcx89bLDurt92RvKpq1kn3kvCvMxRfs26chffUyCr+8+RYDHIe YYEA77Uh4y9Z3KC2I89aA2vh+HXpSzBMS3OGci2kJ1zZ5fZziLFERlMeg5GwsxFkkigP iWgi1Qvy4frcXzbouE9OrC43n53flV7OSvsys= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; b=i3LhV0NgdkM+pJp6sQS+in961SUH6eRgmTNJTAEsS70lAGd4KBXBgw0uop6MhB7tSC cXmmQQZKei3OESHoC7p+pwBJOEdee73X3v9CdUh2pKf2M64zm6fEbsnEm2cIMNnDw9/a 7dXV0x6qOPUnIeFc/DmgWY6a3/ozqH8112Qqs= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.170.18 with SMTP id q18mr51654hbe.50.1258659764369; Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:42:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> References: <4B0570B4.8040209@telia.com> <955F0C15833A459FA2557314E925534C@AGB> Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:42:44 +0000 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m225.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Crafty. 'should' be pretty foolproof. Any old soundcard without 48000Hz ought to just throw-up an error. Andy www.g4jnt.com This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and safety police 2009/11/19 Graham : > All > > I asked Joe =A0K1JT , this question a short time ago, below is the reply > G .. >> >> Q : Is there a =A0means to >> compensate =A0for the =A0sound =A0card =A0sampling rate? , > > No, but I think an even better feature. =A0The sample rate in WSPR 2.0= will > always be 48000 Hz. =A0This will prevent a problem that occurs in a few > systems that insist on sampling at 44100 Hz and then resampling (in the > driver) to the 12000 Hz requested by WSPR 1.2 ... and doing a *very* poo= r > job of the resampling. > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Andy Talbot" > Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 5:29 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: WSPR 2.0 is now available > >> >> It has a calibration procedure built in, but as far as I can make out, >> is aimed at solving frequency offset / tuning errors. =A0 I may have >> missed something, but there seems to be no facility to calibrate =A0for >> soundcard errors in the same way as WSJT does, which can affect symbol >> timing . =A0As we found in discussion on theis reflector a year or so >> ago. =A0 =A0Sample rate timing error is enough to destroy WSPR decoding >> even when signals are strong. >> >> May be wrong, and will go and re read the appendices associated with >> calibration, but no mention is made, specifically, of soundcard >> sampling rate error - only refrences to frequency error. >> FOrtunately, as WSPR is designed around 12000Hz sampling, this is >> rarely out by more than a few ppm in most modern cards. =A0 See my >> Column in the latest RadCom for some soundcard sampling rate >> measurements - and how bad some are >> >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health >> and safety police >> >> >> >> 2009/11/19 Johan Bodin : >>> >>> =A0http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/ >>> >>> >>> 73 >>> Johan SM6LKM >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > >