Return-Path: Received: from rly-me01.mx.aol.com (rly-me01.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.34]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-9974af9b4262fa; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:43:15 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME013-9974af9b4262fa; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:42:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vfK-0008UV-6z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:06 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1N7vfJ-0008UL-FQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:42:05 +0000 Received: from smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.12.12.9]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1N7veW-0000JC-Jc for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:17 +0000 Received: (qmail 48104 invoked from network); 10 Nov 2009 18:41:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btinternet.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE; b=oWD+0Pafe/sZFQnYY543i/hGUYG94rjOrA2bHOpfdocbynNNRpoLHJxGcm25GibmA87UfbJjZVzH3G20eDo8KsX08iOhAk7C9mazbmAnO4POckOB/s/9XpNBalLCRKyMZSYyG70Bjb+7EySH484/sLDJ5c2vdfRKRQmUBGoNP+c= ; Received: from unknown (HELO IBM7FFA209F07C) (c.ashby435@81.152.249.223 with login) by smtp824.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with SMTP; 10 Nov 2009 18:41:56 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: 9STUSnaswBBSd6nO_2gAC20jmYlWRjmg8d5iYd8s.rl181aR6Sw- X-YMail-OSG: brcHXxAVM1k4ldkugZD70USf80Z1gkyktr6Dk2AkhgQN63awq31WNqDlRpppzZN3WevHFqOVegdJLa4Ps6n0gGqiaUC3W3R_YRC07qK2ghZb6nVLB.sSvuGTKdsZpV_pPvzpcpYv.ZquI9XNgrJt_qwcmuxkoXfUUREUSFdStp2FgV4EOTEoSQZdRLYHRMyK0Qqgk2MScqDR3rJTrLduOqYLT52KbJF36ROauJ_NhcfRRjHVPbOCOHM5jaA_sGyDxGbmOhiukLE4e2ypAxBO0SUEyY6yTTX2ocKBZg-- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: From: "Chris" To: References: <112811.74996.qm@web28501.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <003801ca6232$239b5630$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:41:57 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: Re: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.4 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING, LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Mal, Some while ago when I commented a strong signal in the band and in bea= con mode was causing me problems, you quickly told me I was talking no= nsense, saying I wouldn't have such problems if I had a decent filter! Chris, G4AYT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: mal hamilton=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 6:18 PM Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Dennis These Beacon Appliance unattended machine operators are causing QRM= galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO mode. The present band has insufficient bandwidth to accommodate unattende= d beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can avoid QRM or QRX until th= e QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative gibberish and= the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same old re= ports. You are quite right to make your point known.=20 73 de mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: DENNIS EASTERLING=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2009 4:12 PM Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO Congratulations Chris. Most wspr stations seem to congregate at the top end of the band= and are not too much trouble. Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain as he= sits on my xtl frequency and is so close. Maybe a compromise would= be for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not 502.2 kHz -hee) 73 Dennis M0JXM ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Chris Osborn=20 To: LF Group=20 Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:03 PM Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000 th MF QSO LF It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 1000th QSO using= 600m. This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually all of which wer= e 600m / 80m. Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with runners up G3XPU - No. 999 an= d EI0CF - No. 998. QSO break-down according to mode: 928 CW, 34 RTTY and 5= QRSS 600m STATIONS My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists a total of 59 stations= and many of these go back to the start of the UK 600m allocation in= March 2007. Of these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (exclu= ding beacons). Many stations on my list came up only briefly and were never hea= rd of again: G3KZU, G3YHV . . . Others were once very active but have subsequently gone QRT: G3= UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. . . MOST FREQUENTLY WORKED With so few active operators it is obvious that one will work th= e same stations many times and the top 10 stations account for 70% of= my total contacts. My most frequently worked stations are: GW3UEP - 120 G3KEV - 102 M0FMT - 90 G3ZWH - 80 = (alas now SK) G3DXZ - 67 G4GDR - 60 EI0CF/ GI4DPE - 51 M0J= XM - 48 G3UNT - 45 G3VTT - 38 CROSS-BAND AND EU STATIONS There are a few 'regular' stations who listen to 600m and enjoy= a cross-band QSO: DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ, PA0LCE, G3TVF . . . and our few EU MF friends are still active: ON4KTJ, OR7T and OZ8NJ. . . WSPR ON 600m I personally find it sad that the present level of enthusiasm fo= r the WSPR mode was never achieved for hand sent Morse (CW), which af= ter all is the mode which I call to mind when thinking of the old MF= marine band. If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts, with more and stronger sta= tions operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment which is the 600m ban= d then I guess it may be time for me to QSY. 73 Chris G3XIZ ------=_NextPart_000_0028_01CA6235.7B7DEF40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Mal,
Some while ago when I commented a str= ong signal in=20 the band and in beacon mode was causing me problems, you quickly told= me I was=20 talking nonsense, saying I wouldn't have such problems if I had a dece= nt=20 filter!
Chris, G4AYT.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 mal=20 hamilton
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 6:18=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: Re: G3XIZ -= 1000 th MF=20 QSO

Dennis
These Beacon Appliance unattended= machine=20 operators are causing QRM galore to the Radio Amateur in QSO=20 mode.
The present band has insufficient= bandwidth to=20 accommodate unattended beacon modes, with real time QSO'S one can av= oid QRM or=20 QRX until the QRG is clear, whereas Beacons just belch out repeative= gibberish=20 and the same persons respond via the reflector daily with the same= old=20 reports.
You are quite right&= nbsp;to make=20 your point known.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 10,= 2009 4:12=20 PM
Subject: LF: Re: G3XIZ - 10= 00 th MF=20 QSO

Congratulations Chris.
 
Most wspr stations seem to congre= gate at the=20 top end of the band and are not too much trouble.   = ;=20 Jim G7NKS is the biggest pain= as he sits on=20 my xtl frequency and is so close.   Maybe a compromise= would be=20 for people using beacons to keep to one segment of the band (hopef= ully not=20 502.2 kHz -hee)
 
73 Dennis M0JXM
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 08= , 2009 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: G3XIZ - 1000= th MF=20 QSO

LF

It was a red-letter day today as I achieved my 10= 00th QSO=20 using 600m.
This includes 72 cross-band contacts, virtually= all of=20 which were 600m / 80m.

Rog GW3UEP was my 1000 th QSO with= runners=20 up G3XPU - No. 999 and EI0CF - No. 998.

QSO break-down ac= cording to=20 mode:     928 CW,  34 RTTY  and &n= bsp; 5=20 QRSS

600m=20 STATIONS

My personal 600m (EU) spreadsheet lists= a total of=20 59 stations and many of= these go=20 back to the start of the UK  600m allocation in March 2007.=
Of=20 these I have worked or heard only 15 in the past month (excludin= g=20 beacons).
Many stations on my list came up only briefly and= were never=20 heard of again:  G3KZU, G3YHV . . .
Others were once ver= y active=20 but have subsequently gone QRT:  G3UNT, G3VTT, G4GDR. .=20 .

MOST FREQUEN= TLY=20 WORKED

With so few active operators it is obvious= that one=20 will work the same stations many times and the top 10 stations= account for=20 70% of my total contacts.
My most frequently worked stations= =20 are:

GW3UEP - 120     G3KEV -=20 102      M0FMT - 90   &n= bsp;=20 G3ZWH  -  80  (alas now SK)
G3DXZ  &= nbsp;=20 -   67     G4GDR -  =20 60      EI0CF/ GI4DPE  - =20 51   M0JXM - 48
G3UNT    - &nbs= p;=20 45     G3VTT  -   38

<= SPAN style=3D"TEXT-DECORATION: underline">CROSS-BAND AND EU=20 STATIONS

There are a few 'regular' stations who li= sten to=20 600m and enjoy a cross-band QSO:
DK6NI, F6CNI, F6ACU, OH1LSQ,= PA0LCE,=20 G3TVF . . .

and our few EU MF friends are still active:ON4KTJ,=20 OR7T and OZ8NJ. . .

WSPR=20 ON 600m

I personally find it sad that the present= level of=20 enthusiasm for the WSPR mode was never achieved for  hand= sent Morse=20 (CW), which after all is the mode which I call to mind when thin= king of=20 the old MF marine band.
If the WSPR 'enthusiasm' phase lasts,= with more=20 and stronger stations operating 24/7 in the narrow 3 kHz segment= which is=20 the 600m band then I guess it may be time for me to QSY.

= 73 Chris=20 G3XIZ







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