Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (rly-dg08.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.92]) by air-dg07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG072-5e44b045f26218; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:24 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG083-5e44b045f26218; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 15:55:03 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NArXN-0004pt-Lz for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NArXN-0004pk-3S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.44]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NArXL-0005CO-1L for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 20:54:01 +0000 Received: from smtps01.kuleuven.be (smtpshost01.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.74]) by cavuit02.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124C951C009 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub-n4.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.14]) by smtps01.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FA931E702 for ; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:48 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-EXC2-CA.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.11.13]) by ICTS-S-HUB-N4.luna.kuleuven.be ([10.112.9.14]) with mapi; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:53:48 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2009 21:52:52 +0100 Thread-Topic: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Thread-Index: AcpoZdEl0TJYWvHET666OTmo2v1sGAAK0bYS Message-ID: References: <20091118085815.7282031E703@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <477782.43526.qm@web28104.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <20091118102656.11BAD31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be> <20091118145534.2BE5D31E702@smtps01.kuleuven.be>,<002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <002201ca6865$1c55a180$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Accept-Language: nl-NL, nl-BE Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: acceptlanguage: nl-NL, nl-BE MIME-Version: 1.0 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: LF: RE: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable http://www.itu.int/ITU-R/asp/terminology-definition.asp?lang=3Den&rlink=3D= {AA1D0B6B-97AB-403D-B2C0-136FF09F8422} ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.or= g] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38 Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium Rik What ITU document contains the definition that digital modes are telegraph= y. The official handbook issued by HM STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers= states that telegraphy is on/off keyed morse code ie CW and MCW and telephony a voice transmission. Other permitted modes fall into a diff= erent category. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: Rik Strobbe To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 2:55 PM Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium All, over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation= T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium. I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) : Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergunning mag onder dezelfde voo= rwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle toegelaten klassen van uitzen= ding en alle frequenties gebruiken. Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken. English translation: A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditions= as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz. So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests): - 501-504kHz - NIB - max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !) - max. 100Hz bandwidth - only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes= ) 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T --_000_BF4A524700075746A6467658DFC7102C127F47964DICTSSEXC2CAlu_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blackshee= p.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@t= alktalk.net]
Verzonden: woensdag 18 november 2009 16:38
Aan: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: LF: Re: 500kHz in Belgium

Rik
What ITU document contains the defini= tion that digital modes are telegraphy. The official handbook issued by HM= STATIONARY OFFICE for radio officers states that telegraphy is on/off key= ed morse code ie CW and MCW
and telephony a voice transmission.= Other permitted modes fall into a different category.
G3KEV
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009= 2:55 PM
Subject: LF: 500kHz in Belgium

All,

over the past weeks I received several questions wether ECC Recommendation= T/R 61-01 includes 501-504kHz in Belgium.

I asked BIPT (our Ofcom, FCC, ...) and received this answer (in Dutch) :
Een buitenlandse titularis van een HAREC vergun= ning mag onder dezelfde voorwaarden als de Belgische radioamateurs alle to= egelaten klassen van uitzending en alle frequenties gebruiken.
Dan mag hij ook de frequentieband 501-504 kHz gebruiken.

English translation:
A foreign holder of a HAREC licence may operate under the same conditio= ns as Belgian radio amateurs, using all approved modes and frequencies. This includes the frequency range 501-504kHz.

So it is legal to operate as ON/PAxxx/P, ON/Fxxxx/P, ON/Gxxxx/P etc. Restrictions (that of course also apply to our foreign guests):
- 501-504kHz
- NIB
- max. 5W EIRP (not ERP !)
- max. 100Hz bandwidth
- only telegraphy (as per ITU definition, thus includes digital text modes= )

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
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