Return-Path: Received: from rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (rly-mg07.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.113]) by air-mg04.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMG043-a244b034d2b367; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:26:30 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mg07.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMG076-a244b034d2b367; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 20:26:05 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZIB-0007wW-2C for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:07 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NAZIA-0007wN-K5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:06 +0000 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NAZI9-0003sp-KE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 18 Nov 2009 01:25:06 +0000 Received: from edmwaa03.telusplanet.net ([75.157.140.241]) by priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.7.08.04.00 201-2186-134-20080326) with ESMTP id <20091118012503.QSCH1978.priv-edmwes23.telusplanet.net@edmwaa03.telusplanet.net> for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:25:03 -0700 Received: from [192.168.1.67] (d75-157-140-241.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.140.241]) by edmwaa03.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 4FDB33672FE0C170 for ; Tue, 17 Nov 2009 18:25:03 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <4B034CEF.2010206@telus.net> Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2009 17:25:03 -0800 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Windows/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <961313.39040.qm@web28103.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276 Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature stations ?? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) A fine argument if VX9MRC was licensed in the amateur service. But amateur regulations do not apply as VX9MRC is licensed in the developmental service as posting your license publicly would allow others to see. Permissible communication in the developmental service must be clearly stated in the license terms. Polishing up the plank, Scott jcraig@mun.ca wrote: > > Blimey... I've been exposed as a PIRATE! Polly, me parrot, (Newfoundland > Puffin) is concerned I might be disciplined a with keel hauling or the > cat-o-nine-tails! Shiver me timbers! > > For those who have worked VX9MRC and are losing sleep for fear of > being asked to walk the plank by their licensing authority, please > take comfort in > the following: > > The General Radio Regulations defina a radio station as "a place > wherein radio apparatus is located." VO1NA is duly "licensed" in > Canada and is the radio station wherein is located the > radiotelegraphic apparatus of VX9MRC, thanks to the kind efforts of > the Marconi Radio Club of Newfoundland. > > The regulations state "No operator of an amateur station shall > communicate > with radio stations other than stations licensed in the amateur service" > > Therefore, any station that communicates with VX9MRC is communicating > with a station licensed in the amateur serivce and does so accordance > with the regulations. > > Alas, ye olde PIRATE who can evidently lob 10^30 big (600m) photons per > second across the brine pond is but an amateur in legal matters. > > 73 Arrh me Hearties!!! > Joe VO1NA > > On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Andy Talbot wrote: > >> And who do you think would bother if you did work one ? >> Who would even care ? >> >> Andy >> www.g4jnt.com >> >> this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state >> >> >> 2009/11/13 M0FMT >> >>> The whole setup looks decidedly dodgy to me. If they are Pirates how >>> would it affect my license if the opportunity arose for me to work >>> one and I >>> did? The only place I know where I am licensed work a non Amateur >>> station is >>> on 5megs and that can only be a UK Mill station. >>> >>> It's a question of how much you value your license I suppose. >>> >>> 73 petefmt >>> >>> >>> --- On *Fri, 13/11/09, Graham * wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Graham >>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other amature >>> stations ?? >>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> Date: Friday, 13 November, 2009, 14:53 >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> SO.... Matter and antimatter cannot coexist at close range for more >>> than a >>> small fraction of a second because they collide with and annihilate >>> each >>> other, releasing large quantities of energy in the form of gamma rays >>> >>> Got it now .. gamma rays are electromagnetic ..hence radio waves are >>> produced .. which may suffer (constructive interference) or >>> (destructive >>> interference) resulting in large variations in amplitude at the >>> point of >>> observation ..... >>> >>> Thanks ! >>> >>> G .. >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Scott Tilley" >>> >>> >>>> >>> Sent: Friday, November 13, 2009 2:29 PM >>> To: >>> >>> >>>> >>> Subject: Re: LF: Are the new VE stations able to qso with other >>> amature >>> stations ?? >>> >>>> >>>> Hi John >>>> >>>> VX is in developmental service (same idea as US stations), EI in >>>> amateur >>> service... Like positive and negative antimatter they don't mix. >>>> >>>> 73 Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> John P-G wrote: >>>>> Scott Tilley wrote: >>>>>> Hi Graham >>>>>> >>>>>> All Canadian 600m stations are operating under COMMERCIAL >>>>>> Developmental >>> Licenses and are not able to communicate with the Amateur Service. >>>>> >>>>> So VX9MRC shouldn't be having regular CW QSOs with EI0CF? >>>>> >>>>> Still confused.... >>>>> >>>>> John >>>>> GM4SLV >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >