Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (rly-dd02.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.149]) by air-dd03.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINDD031-b604b11e0fc318; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:37 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD022-b604b11e0fc318; Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:48:30 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZp4-0006Ms-B5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:38 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NEZp3-0006Mj-TF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:37 +0000 Received: from lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de ([130.83.156.232]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NEZp3-0002fM-6j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 02:47:37 +0000 Received: from FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de (File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de [130.83.212.129]) by lnx503.hrz.tu-darmstadt.de (8.14.2/8.14.2/HRZ/PMX) with SMTP id nAT2lZr1018924 for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:36 +0100 (envelope-from schaefer@hst.tu-darmstadt.de) Received: from [127.0.0.1] (helo=File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de) by FILE-SERVER-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de with AVK MailGateway; for ; Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:35 +0100 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 2009 03:47:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <38A51B74B884D74083D7950AD0DD85E828AA6A@File-Server-HST.hst.e-technik.tu-darmstadt.de> In-Reply-To: <002e01ca7085$f21d05b0$3ab27cbc@ap6fnsa53r3k6h> X-MS-Has-Attach: Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Thread-Index: Acpwhp0APK5KVm5VSY6MStav0W8ffgAFrekg From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= To: X-AVK-Virus-Check: AVB 19.594;28.11.2009 X-PMX-TU: seen v0.99a by 5.5.8.383112, Antispam-Engine: 2.7.2.376379, Antispam-Data: 2009.11.29.23919 X-PMX-SPAMCHECK: outgoing mail X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: AW: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Marcin,=20 My /p ground is a copper band of about 20cm x 25m x 1mm (abt 25kg, so no= problem in the wind) With this band, just rolled out within 1...2 Minutes I get a overall loss= resistance of 50...55 Ohms (earth losses, wire losses, coil losses and,= of course, the radiation resistance) ;-) Are you qrv or just receiving until now? We always could try a qso if you= are interested. 73s to all, Stefan/DK7FC -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] Im Auftrag von Marcin Gesendet: Sonntag, 29. November 2009 00:51 An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Betreff: LF: Re: DK7FC/p qrv this evening on 137kHz Dear Stefan, LF Very good copied your signal in Poland. Why use your portable ground system? -- Vy 73! Macin SQ2BXI Dear Lowfers, This is my first mail to the reflector and so i want to say hello to all= :-) It=B4s nice to be able to participate now here although my activity will= stay on the band mostly ;-) If there will be no weather problems this evening I will agn be qrv on 137 in CW (abt 136,8) and/or QRSS3. Since abt 3 weeks I am qrv again. Since I live in a city I have no possibilities to be on LF, even not in RXing (QRM)... Therefore and cause= I like to be in the nature I am now qrv in /p. I use a kite antenna, 100m up (!). This should have a radiation resistance of 0,83 Ohms. My overall resistance is abt 30...55 Ohms, depending on the ground a achieve. So you can imagine abt the ERP. I have a 1KW class E PA that I use with limited power. But The ERP easily reaches the 1W ERP limit, as one can imagine.. My RX is still poor but I am working on a receiving loop. Now, I use the= TX ant for receiving that causes some problems ;-) It would be nice to get some QSOs or even RX-RPRTs tonight. Until now I go= t 2 QSOs in each activity ;-) Best regards, Stefan / DK7FC