Return-Path: Received: from rly-da06.mx.aol.com (rly-da06.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.80]) by air-da02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA024-a754acb287416a; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:22:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA065-a754acb287416a; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 07:22:30 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Mv86u-0002lt-Vy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:21:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Mv86u-0002lk-9p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:21:40 +0100 Received: from ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net ([203.16.214.145]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mv85T-0005bl-4P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Oct 2009 12:20:14 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AnEFAPvEykqWZXoy/2dsb2JhbACCJy2ICYJtBrZpB45jgXgwggIEgVM X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.44,513,1249223400"; d="scan'208,217";a="449055945" Received: from ppp122-50.static.internode.on.net (HELO HPt680a) ([150.101.122.50]) by ipmail05.adl2.internode.on.net with SMTP; 06 Oct 2009 21:51:17 +1030 Message-ID: From: "VK2ZTO" To: References: <1f0624b90910050228j683a0698nbd2f7129453fed9d@mail.gmail.com> <5366955AF11F40518FB761BA5C4799EB@HPt680a> <1f0624b90910050655h5141db5bq4fb92142d62765bc@mail.gmail.com> <30DA2B8A618642F1964D6538BC44C658@HPt680a> <1f0624b90910060222o7b56fa3fic8536023ea863d4b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 22:21:16 +1100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5843 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA46D3.520D5650" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA46D3.520D5650 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable G'day Gary, Well - it seems it is not specific to your grabber - any http://myweb.= tiscali.co.uk/username address is not working from here. The http://= www.tiscali.co.uk link is OK. Maybe the "myweb..." site is blocked by my ISP (or vice-versa) for som= e reason. It is obviously a problem for me only so 'nuff said. Thanks for the info and help. (Slips quietly back into the background...) 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 8:22 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... Hi Steve, Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end, I will= give you my main web address & you can try from the links page (if yo= u get in that is) :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/ Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home page :- http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signals,= the nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.2= 00kHz but usually only using QRS03 or QRS10. IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL OTHERS= PLEASE TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS. 73 Gary - G4WGT. 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO G'day Gary, Sorry - still can't connect. Perhaps someone else should try. Sorry to all for using the 'B' word - I of course meant MEPT.... A bit of research makes me think there are no 24/7 QRSS30 or slowe= r MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU - or at least none that I can= find. My intent was to leave ARGO going overnight here (local time) each= day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by some chance, I could see= anything this far away. Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfortunately for some inexplicable rea= son I cannot see it currently. In any case, I would still need a= regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to be the= case. Thanks for the help and info. 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2009 12:55 AM Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... Hi Steve,=20 Although I have not been uploading captures today until now (134= 8utc) there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a messa= ge "Grabber Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Monday= (hard disk backup's etc). You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers are= random but mine is 24/7. Here is the url again just in case :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO G'day Gary, There currently seems to be a rend in the time-space continuum= here down under in VK-land.... Apart from your site - for which I get a "can't connect". From the links on the Google site I get the following results. 1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan 2009. 2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov 2008. 3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab Nov 2008. 4. GM4ISM - can't connect. 5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008. 6. RN3AGC - can't connect. The only one that works is the http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab= / link. What am I missing ? 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary - G4WGT=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Monday, October 05, 2009 8:28 PM Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacons and grabbers.... Hi Steve,=20 A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site at= :- http://groups.google.com/group/uk500khz/web/500-khz-grabbers Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands at :- http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/wgtaylor/grabber2.html 73 Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo. 2009/10/5 VK2ZTO G'day All, In an expression of extreme optimism I am interested in ge= tting details of 500kc beacons (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europ= e. To get real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking= for relevant local grabbers for those beacons. 73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0047_01CA46D3.520D5650 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
G'day Gary,
 
Well - it seems it is not specific to= your grabber=20 - any http://myweb.t= iscali.co.uk/username=20 address is not working from here.   The http://www.tiscali.co.uk link is=20 OK.
 
Maybe the "myweb..." site is blocked= by my ISP (or=20 vice-versa) for some reason.
 
It is obviously a problem for me only= so 'nuff=20 said.
 
Thanks for the info and help.<= /DIV>
 
(Slips quietly back into the=20 background...)
 
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 20= 09 8:22=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc beacon= s and=20 grabbers....

Hi Steve,

Well, I can't see any reason for the non-connect from my end,= I will give=20 you my main web address & you can try from the links page (if yo= u get in=20 that is) :-


Also you could try from the links on the UK500KHZ group home pa= ge=20 :-


You are correct regarding the operation of slow rate 24/7 signa= ls, the=20 nearest to that are a few experimental EU stations a around 505.200k= Hz but=20 usually only using QRS03 or QRS10.

IN VIEW OF THE PROBLEMS STEVE IS HAVING WITH MY GRABBER, WILL= OTHERS=20 PLEASE TRY IT & REPORT IF THERE ARE PROBLEMS.

73

Gary - G4WGT.









2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2zto@djirra= .com>
G'day Gary,
 
Sorry - still can't connect. = ; =20 Perhaps someone else should try.
 
Sorry to all for using the 'B' wo= rd - I of=20 course meant MEPT....
 
A bit of research makes me think= there are no=20 24/7 QRSS30 or slower MEPTs operating on 500kc in the UK/EU -= or at=20 least none that I can find.
 
My intent was to leave ARGO going= overnight=20 here (local time) each day(sic) for a period of time to see if, by= some=20 chance, I could see anything this far away.
 
Yours grabber is 24/7, but unfort= unately for=20 some inexplicable reason I cannot see it=20 currently.     In any case, I would= still need=20 a regular MEPT with long carrier bursts, and that appears not to= be the=20 case.
 
Thanks for the help and info.
 
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 06= , 2009 12:55=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: 500kc be= acons and=20 grabbers....

Hi Steve,=20

Although I have not been uploading captures today until now= (1348utc)=20 there is no problem with my site, it has been displaying a messa= ge=20 "Grabber Temporary Off Line" as I do my PC maintenance on a Mond= ay (hard=20 disk backup's etc).

You will find that some (maybe most) of the other grabbers= are random=20 but mine is 24/7.

Here is the url again just in case :-


73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.

2009/10/5 VK2ZTO <vk2= zto@djirra.com>
G'day Gary,
 
There currently seems to be= a rend in the=20 time-space continuum here down under in VK-land....
 
Apart from your site - for wh= ich I get a=20 "can't connect".
 
From the links on the Go= ogle site I=20 get the following results.
 
1. GM4SLV - last grab Jan=20 2009.
2. CT1DRP - last grab Nov=20 2008.
3. Hartmut Wolff - last grab= Nov=20 2008.
4. GM4ISM - can't connect.
5. DF6NM - last grab May 2008= .
6. RN3AGC - can't connect.
 
The only one that works is th= e http://www.wireless.org.uk/grab/ link.<= /DIV>
 
What am I missing ?
 
73 Steve VK2ZTO (VK2XV)
----- Original Message -----=
From= : Gary - G4WGT
Sent: Monday, October= 05, 2009=20 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: LF: 500k= c beacons=20 and grabbers....

Hi Steve,=20

A small list of grabbers on the UK500KHZ Group web site= at=20 :-


Also my own grabber page for the UK, EU & USA bands= at=20 :-


73

Gary - G4WGT - IO83qo.



2009/10/5 VK2ZTO &l= t;vk2zto@djirra.com>
G'day All,

In an expression of extreme=20 optimism I am interested in getting details of 500kc beaco= ns=20 (preferably QRSS30 and slower) in Europe.    To= get=20 real-time confirmation of on-air status I am also looking= for=20 relevant local grabbers for those beacons.

73 Steve= VK2ZTO=20 (VK2XV)=20


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