Return-Path: Received: from rly-me08.mx.aol.com (rly-me08.mail.aol.com [172.20.83.42]) by air-me08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINME082-9d24ac5ddc6322; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:02:37 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-me08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINME086-9d24ac5ddc6322; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 07:02:33 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Mtft2-0005Ri-4n for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:01:20 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Mtft1-0005RZ-Pr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:01:19 +0100 Received: from ns3.isc.de ([195.64.106.46] helo=ndisco46.misc.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtfrh-00086C-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 11:59:57 +0100 Received: from p5b261c73.dip0.t-ipconnect.de ([91.38.28.115] helo=[192.168.178.20]) by ndisco46.misc.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mtfsj-0001Iz-5g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:01:01 +0200 From: "Klaus von der Heide" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2009 13:00:51 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4AC5F983.16585.906600@v.d.heide.on-line.de> In-reply-to: <22E5FF108AB94135883D0A402EC9B85C@JimPC> References: <22E5FF108AB94135883D0A402EC9B85C@JimPC> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41, DE v4.41 R1) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: RX and Sound Card Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Dear Members of the Group, since years I use a very simple method of measuring the output sample rate of the soundcard: (1) Choose an LF frequency normal such as HBG, MSF or DCF77 (2) Generate a sinewave on the soundcard output with a harmonic very near to the frequency normal. Use maximum volme. Example: For DCF77 on 77500 Hz generate (77500 +- 1.5)/19 = 4078.868 or 4079.026 Hz to get a signal 1.5 Hz apart from the normal (if the samplerate has the nominal value). (3) Use a diode or transistor to distort the sound output and couple it appropriately to your LF antenna such that the harmonic has similar amplitude as the frequency normal in your receiver. (4) Change output frequency such that the frequency normal lies symmetrically between both harmonics (i.e. use both frequencies of the example in sequence). (5) Sample the SSB receiver output, compute the spectrum, and identify the peaks. Usually the generated peaks are far from what one expects. So the audio frequencies have to be improved iteratively. The accuracy only is limited by the time interval used for the measurements. With intervals of 10 minutes the accuracy is about 0.001 Hz. That is enough to measure the drift of the samplerates. I have some JPGs with measured spectra which will be sent on request. 73 de Klaus, DJ5HG