Return-Path: Received: from rly-df09.mx.aol.com (rly-df09.mail.aol.com [172.19.156.22]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDF054-5794ad2f9b1124; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:41:22 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-df09.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDF096-5794ad2f9b1124; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 05:41:07 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MxHNR-0005Ay-Jx for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:39:37 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MxHNR-0005Ap-3Q for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:39:37 +0100 Received: from mail-ew0-f219.google.com ([209.85.219.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MxHLx-0000Sj-I5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:38:06 +0100 Received: by ewy19 with SMTP id 19so8692289ewy.4 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:39:19 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:sender:received:in-reply-to :references:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=ss+1xmOHU+tVmUjHeDSY7s2jQipqdpIebE/05y3BF80=; b=Q3nxcF00/KFXS4QKvlElnJ+dDv42V2j0Eba0rAO8/QW3IngXjI5Ic1U5rnq3biJ62d b3sbOc8fW/HOHJAedABTfMU+AhnzvklOXCy2iHzBQWiTClqWe2klgJgn52XpLwXk5GPy iFdGGGqeK8/wjsM/a4KyMi9e1o0bH7pbUYT+4= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date :x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; b=xfC794qun+cYMG+7N91Em44Tu7weJIZodH3pkXYsf+1YZrOHU6fBH5QxzfXzFRvAFW xdqhYjwHqxDMOHgHSIFvFV8OGhtV9nszoAETjtDWM1kL8jmJDriGVc07ORoF3aTxdqfY 4uyjAO9jOPxsqs4l02ykwHOoAVQJziEDjl20A= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.211.146.5 with SMTP id y5mr6843927ebn.41.1255340359180; Mon, 12 Oct 2009 02:39:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <72445CC346B9474683C65741E109FED9@JimPC> References: <1f0624b90910111111k48dbc99w46338e723f3684fb@mail.gmail.com> <024801ca4a9f$9f087eb0$0217aac0@jimdesk> <1f0624b90910111149k603e367dha9a95025b21d6f42@mail.gmail.com> <1f0624b90910111404s1260d39ehe005ef7eda670e92@mail.gmail.com> <72445CC346B9474683C65741E109FED9@JimPC> Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 10:39:17 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: fd01fa13ca8871a3 Message-ID: <1f0624b90910120239u3b2c82fexa0d02251def0797@mail.gmail.com> From: Gary - G4WGT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: RE: 503.6kHz Test Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636c5bfbd2eb6ca0475b9b408 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d271.2 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : fail X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001636c5bfbd2eb6ca0475b9b408 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Jim, LF, Thank you for the plot & your observations. I have downloaded the plot to study later. I had not realised until after the PA FET failure on Saturday night that the LPF toroids were very hot & need to be upgraded if I am going to run that level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna current). I must also check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the antenna if that is getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching (tapped coil) which you provided documentation & a spreadsheet for a while ago. Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all appreciate your input, time & efforts devoted to the hobby. Cheers, Gary - G4WGT. 2009/10/11 James Moritz > Dear Gary, LF Group, > > This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The > red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue line is > the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea of the > audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal to show > variations in signal level - there are actually short periods where the > signal fades to inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gives a > reasonable idea. > > G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due > to different sky-wave paths. G4JNT is a very stable ground wave signal > here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combination > of ground wave and sky wave. > > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > --001636c5bfbd2eb6ca0475b9b408 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim, LF,

Thank you for the plot & your observati= ons. I have downloaded the plot to study later.

I= had not realised until after the PA FET failure on Saturday night that th= e LPF toroids were very hot & need to be upgraded if I am going to run= that level of power again (5 watts ERP about 4 Amps antenna current). I= must also check the matching transformer toroids at the base of the anten= na if that is getting hot also, I may look into the alternative matching= (tapped coil) which you provided documentation & a spreadsheet for a= while ago.

Keep up the good work, I am sure that we all appreciat= e your input, time & efforts devoted to the hobby.

Cheers,

Gary - G4WGT.





2009= /10/11 James Moritz <james.moritz@btopenworld.com>
Dear Gary, LF Group,

This is what the signal looks like for about 11/2 hours up to 2200utc. The= red signal is G4WGT, the yellow one is G4JNT's WSPR beacon. The blue= line is the noise level scaled to about 300Hz bandwidth, to give an idea= of the audible strength as a CW signal. The plot settings are not ideal= to show variations in signal level - there are actually short periods whe= re the signal fades to inaudibility that don't show up here, but it gi= ves a reasonable idea.

G4WGT I think must be mainly sky wave here so presumably the fading is due= to =A0different sky-wave paths. =A0G4JNT is a very stable ground wave sig= nal here during the day, so I imagine the fading here is due to the combin= ation of ground wave and sky wave.


Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

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