Return-Path: Received: from rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (rly-dg11.mail.aol.com [172.19.151.95]) by air-dg02.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDG024-6074aba8a6c22c; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:52:25 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dg11.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDG118-6074aba8a6c22c; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 16:51:58 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MqYny-0000p5-RO for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:51:14 +0100 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MqYny-0000ow-C6 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:51:14 +0100 Received: from mail-bw0-f212.google.com ([209.85.218.212]) by relay3.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MqYno-0000Aa-0j for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:51:06 +0100 Received: by bwz8 with SMTP id 8so946510bwz.4 for ; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:50:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=Z7LrDRjm0estrookWBvRkSlrJOs/N5qcpMeqL4tncf0=; b=K/LPGjUVhoZjQNa50WO+vqs1BkHD1nLAF2QRxNrR+tuIY94tyXHuguKCVXX/B938LA 2n0tEebQJYg3+0DMX5Kgbkx+Jl5L/E5h5sGCP4l8QbIl7f5K030GunhKp9V0Aa+bteG3 Ff+lrvH7VS9Ji7X2ktKH/gVv4ycSkxSqlLIiI= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=LKO/cTnG/UayPF05+SGir2zOVqMwYBThTa4H+yecGobVEPXfNCNKI6rH+GCOgB2SzA /i9bl81zcYAdlYpSxoelzNPlPCIko6ghLURgbpFVeIEI4iWfrzTDDHTpm/GFGR1dOayQ IVzoOf2+voE6XWsdo/fvFb02otYs4u+4DefCA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.239.144.99 with SMTP id n35mr246013hba.178.1253739057349; Wed, 23 Sep 2009 13:50:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:50:57 +0100 Message-ID: From: Andy Talbot To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: s/n shown by wspr .... what is it actually showing ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001485f72578278498047444dfae X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m236.1 ; domain : googlemail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --001485f72578278498047444dfae Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter's worth. So +20dB in 100Hz = -3dB in 2500Hz. Andy www.g4jnt.com On 23/09/2009, Graham wrote: > > Just watched Dave's G3YXM wspr signal on spec-lab , > > Spec-lab showed the signal to be a constant 20 dB over the back ground > noise floor of the rx > so in my book that's 20 dB s/n > > The wspr decode is showing -3 dB s/n ? > > What is it actually displaying ? > > G .. > > > > -- Andy www.g4jnt.com this email has been scanned for political correctness by the nanny state --001485f72578278498047444dfae Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Its normalised to 2500Hz banbdwidth - approximately an SSB filter'= ;s worth.
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So +20dB in 100Hz=A0=A0 =3D=A0 =A0-3dB in 2500Hz.=A0=A0
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Andy


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On 23/09/2009, Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.= fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
Just watched Dave's G3YXM =A0wspr= =A0 signal on spec-lab ,
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The=A0 wspr=A0 decode is=A0 showing= -3 dB s/n ?
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What is it=A0 actually=A0 displaying= ?
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G ..
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