Return-Path: Received: from rly-de12.mx.aol.com (rly-de12.mail.aol.com [172.19.170.148]) by air-de07.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDE074-51f4aa978eb332; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:08:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-de12.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDE126-51f4aa978eb332; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 18:08:44 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Mlro4-0008DV-Op for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:07:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Mlro4-0008DM-5S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:07:56 +0100 Received: from blu0-omc1-s3.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.14]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mlrn2-0002Uk-PV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 10 Sep 2009 23:06:53 +0100 Received: from BLU146-W6 ([65.55.116.8]) by blu0-omc1-s3.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:07:34 -0700 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [117.12.237.195] From: Laurence BY3A-KL1X China To: Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 14:07:34 -0800 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 10 Sep 2009 22:07:34.0066 (UTC) FILETIME=[19462920:01CA3263] X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_1667e739-fa08-480c-83e7-7624a5a5958f_" Subject: LF: report - 500 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --_1667e739-fa08-480c-83e7-7624a5a5958f_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 The window to Eu is still very small but Gus signal peaked (moreover becam= e visible) at around 2100z for about 15 mins. =20 This is the time of the day when the sky is just showing signs of lighteni= ng up a bit as we go towards dawn. Nothing from Jim but given the paths an= d the timeline its still way too short given the mutual full darkness path= . It still isnt. =20 Gus's move to 925 helped a lot and it was easy to see the WSPR signature= using Argo. =20 On WOLF =20 snipped from another email 2009-09-10 21:15:29 >WOLF10 -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000 t: 24 f:-0.339 etc.................. =20 For calibration of receiver/cards I commend John W1TAG's site - have a tro= ll around and perhaps read. =20 http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSamp.htm =20 Hes got some great stuff on his site. =20 WOLF should be a much better "dig into the noise" protocol for paths like= mine which require a lot of aggregation and sampling to get a good decode= . Time will tell. But you have to get your receiver and sound cal down to= nearly zero Hz offset for the best improvement. f:-0.339 (Hz) isnt bad -= =20 =20 Your pc too has to work very hard and having multiple processes running ma= y be stressing it to the point where buffers are being buffeted! Im runnin= g WSPR, WOLF, ARGO, ARGO upload and Internet exp all at the same time and= Im not sure whether this is the best for large processing sessions. I ten= d to look at the clock timing and if there is discrepancies between actual= and PC clock time over a short baseline Im probably doing too much (my si= mple view) =20 If your getting f: >1Hz decodes you need to do something - In fact if your= getting freq offsets f: >0.5 +- Hz Id still do something to get your cal= better. When we come to longer paths and weaker more transitory openings= it will really pay, and not just for WOLF either. =20 WOLF should (should) knock socks off WSPR at very very low signal levels= (>-30) but time will tell. It also requires a very stable receiver/phase= to work...a receiver that wanders just a few millihertz over the sampling= period will reduce the quality of the decode.. It may appear to be a lot= of work and over the short paths WSPR/CW et al is much more forgiving.. =20 With thanks for the signals - off to work time. =20 Laurence KL 1X G4 DMA in Tianjin China. _________________________________________________________________ Hotmail=AE is up to 70% faster. Now good news travels really fast.=20 http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=3DPID23391::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-= US:WM_HYGN_faster:082009=3D --_1667e739-fa08-480c-83e7-7624a5a5958f_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable  
The window to Eu is still very small but Gus signal peaked (moreover becam= e visible) at around 2100z for about 15 mins.
 
This is the time of the day when the sky is just showing signs of lighteni= ng up a bit as we go towards dawn. Nothing from Jim but given the paths an= d the timeline its still way too short given the mutual full dar= kness path. It still isnt.
 
Gus's move to 925 helped a lot and it was easy to see the WSPR signature= using Argo.
 
On WOLF
 
snipped from another email
2009-09-10 21:15:29 >WOLF10  -r 8100.257 -f 1000 -t 1 -w 0.0000t:  24 f:-0.339= etc..................
 
For calibration of receiver/cards I commend John W1TAG's site - have a tro= ll around and perhaps read.
 
http://www.w1tag.com/WOLFSam= p.htm
 
Hes got some great stuff on his site.
 
WOLF should be a much better "dig into the noise" protocol for paths like= mine which require a lot of aggregation and sampling to get a good decode= . Time will tell. But you have to get your receiver and sound cal down to= nearly zero Hz offset for the best improvement. f:-0.339 (Hz) isnt bad -
 
Your pc too has to work very hard and having multiple processes running ma= y be stressing it to the point where buffers are being buffeted! Im runnin= g WSPR, WOLF, ARGO, ARGO upload and Internet exp all at the same time and= Im not sure whether this is the best for large processing sessions. I ten= d to look at the clock timing and if there is discrepancies between actual= and PC clock time over a short baseline Im probably doing too much (my si= mple view)
 
If your getting f: >1Hz decodes you need to do something - In fact= if your getting freq offsets  f: >0.5 +- Hz Id still do some= thing to get your cal better. When we come to longer paths and weaker more= transitory openings it will really pay, and not just for WOLF either.
 
WOLF should (should) knock socks off WSPR at very very low signal levels= (>-30) but time will tell. It also requires a very stable receive= r/phase to work...a receiver that wanders just a few millihertz over the= sampling period will reduce the quality of the decode..  It may= appear to be a lot of work and over the short paths WSPR/CW et al is much= more forgiving..
 
With thanks for the signals - off to work time.
 
Laurence KL 1X G4 DMA in Tianjin China.

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