Return-Path: Received: from rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (rly-dd05.mail.aol.com [172.19.141.152]) by air-dd10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDD102-b7b4aad67feb8; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:45:56 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dd05.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDD055-b7b4aad67feb8; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 17:45:36 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MmwsI-00083i-5M for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:44:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MmwsH-00083Z-LI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:44:45 +0100 Received: from mail-ew0-f225.google.com ([209.85.219.225]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MmwrD-00056G-8e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:43:40 +0100 Received: by ewy25 with SMTP id 25so627329ewy.33 for ; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:44:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=10lb63joiHVR0t1hhsu32TxYH0YZU0+OuPYHruiyT7g=; b=IEogRIKQ0C2ioaHuV+aLujiFC7YJkToutodeseczvWlPZsIeREFf8y2TijkN2WUXR3 fLvBiVdyiyMLI6BTRm32OQ+80vWdH2xJ4TWdzchjkHTYSyu6/U8qfhVDdhGxlujaC1kT vHeQD0iy2xJ8jAz/314XsV00f/MYG9046MsBA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=oUmjHXUSnhrZYworHxOCSd1VCJu8xyx+NdpinZRVal+P8R0d51oisfjudCyTgAnQ/t JVzzf2egNYXMxZVAgAFd623Jy2VdLl325VAxFhGqba8ZkUo/kR3yTANP2LcXzjsTIYxn xl705rZsBPqYsBylLgNofxn265iyXmKWpLoOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.72.208 with SMTP id t58mr996301wed.173.1252878271565; Sun, 13 Sep 2009 14:44:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4AAD65B5.8040509@sighthound.demon.co.uk> References: <9afca2640909131310k73246505t7baf99cd0a4485c1@mail.gmail.com> <3aaadcb80909131320m7db01c2dk1623bd384c1c59c6@mail.gmail.com> <9afca2640909131328v7804b70qa104d34d2c0b4d37@mail.gmail.com> <4AAD65B5.8040509@sighthound.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2009 22:44:31 +0100 Message-ID: <9afca2640909131444g28397a1v46cacc9d0f493406@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: My first WSPR spots Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00504502cd0c52d09004737c74c5 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d237.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --00504502cd0c52d09004737c74c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Yes, I'll leave the WSPR signal running tonight John. So far only G6ALB and G3XVL have reported the signal, but maybe the noise floor will drop during the night and a few more might discern the tiny signal. I am enjoying this SO much and wish I'd done this much sooner, but I only discovered WSPR a few weeks ago. 73s Roger G3XBM 2009/9/13 John P-G > Roger Lapthorn wrote: > >> If you could SEE my TX, "antenna" and ATU you would realise how amazed I >> am >> at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal >> wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on >> the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a >> 2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a >> *really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible >> with some >> effort on my part. >> > > > Roger! > > Well done - it just shows what can be done with RF and a piece of wire.... > > Assuming your ERP to be around the ~mW level we might be in with a chance > even up to Shetland, given some suitable conditions. > > I've been doing some tests on 5MHz recently and have been receiving > stations using TX powers in the milliwat, and sub-milliwatt, range. > > I've received G4ZFQ using TX power of 0.3mW at a range of 1061km. > > Obviously it's not fair to directly compare 5MHz and 500kHz - at least it > shows what can be done with really low ERP. > > Please leave the WSPR running overnight and let's see what turns up in the > wee small hours. > > Cheers, > > John > GM4SLV > > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --00504502cd0c52d09004737c74c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, I'll leave the WSPR signal running tonight John.

So far= only G6ALB and G3XVL have reported the signal, but maybe the noise floor= will drop during the night and a few more might discern the tiny signal.= =A0 I am enjoying this SO much and wish I'd done this much sooner, but= I only discovered WSPR a few weeks ago.

73s
Roger G3XBM


2009/9/13 Joh= n P-G <gm4slv@sighthound.demon.co.uk>
Roger Lapthorn wrote:
If you could SEE my TX, =A0"antenna" and ATU you would realise= how amazed I am
at this report from G3XVL. My antenna is literally 15m of low horizontal wire with about 2m of it vertical, a central heating ground and an ATU on<= br> the bedroom table made from a ferrite rod and fed with 700mW from a
2N3906/2N3904. This proves that 500kHz is possible with a
*really*minimalist station. I can only imagine what will be possible
with some
effort on my part.


Roger!

Well done - it just shows what can be done with RF and a piece of wire....=

Assuming your ERP to be around the ~mW level we might be in with a chance= even up to Shetland, given some suitable conditions.

I've been doing some tests on 5MHz recently and have been receiving st= ations using TX powers in the milliwat, and sub-milliwatt, range.

I've received G4ZFQ using TX power of 0.3mW at a range of 1061km.

Obviously it's not fair to directly compare 5MHz and 500kHz - at least= it shows what can be done with really low ERP.

Please leave the WSPR running overnight and let's see what turns up in= the wee small hours.

Cheers,

John
GM4SLV






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