Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (rly-mb10.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.168]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINMB032-d2e4ab7c8dd368; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:41:47 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb10.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB102-d2e4ab7c8dd368; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 14:41:34 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Mpnoh-0007KM-1O for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:40:51 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Mpnog-0007KD-LG for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:40:50 +0100 Received: from smtp817.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([77.238.189.17]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MpnnV-0002Gf-Sd for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:39:38 +0100 Received: (qmail 28312 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2009 18:40:35 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=btopenworld.com; h=Received:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MIMEOLE; b=KV/54UEt54gr61BMb3XqpeLVZAcL5DLrSlJWg8HCNcItXzq7yXGf4d94YsUej1FsDzmIuAYYFsH6jVAe0n7ZD3dfZ31ZPTgxHEbN6T/ii1C78MUvYuuWFeUMguhQ4xe3pZjROZk9dUbUGxQSeGzqp93NzCsZEVL9YQdFaD0FDLo= ; Received: from unknown (HELO JimPC) (james.moritz@86.179.30.41 with login) by smtp817.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2009 18:40:35 -0000 X-Yahoo-SMTP: qKIhhNCswBB2TTHr2BORWcGGR2mpopxhCcunGIxpCKQYiG07Q7UOhNo- X-YMail-OSG: u0niG.QVM1lptvtFYArxk3lUy4Uv76Z7LOaSaqYnIMyvjfMDvJEu0inVuvg3WC.l.fILMXgIEVo.SjL5w35_JdAmPhYG95eJvjypVvxPBR3OhkLfhYkCAc5nD02OLhgItBtT7ikoPGIphtudElLJI1BDALrq04gzipYb3rt1VpzxVUUn0XzkbUYZThzDaMwJzEForR1Jc3AYHDg2POFtPHXeejjpkbf_2lMVGhP40dpb07.FddQ- X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 Message-ID: <7D5B0AF5BD6C467F8719EB684EB8D7D5@JimPC> From: "James Moritz" To: References: <47C531A902A946C9BE2EEC5C6B7E2EF3@presario1> <1775028CB7C146B496121BA36FB7093D@AGB> In-Reply-To: <1775028CB7C146B496121BA36FB7093D@AGB> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:40:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: US 500-kHz band plan Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Sorry, pressed "send" too soon by accident! Dear Graham, LF Group, > As the European allocation looks to be wider than the Uk, are we > expecting the UK 3 Khz allocation to remain as is, if and when the > band is formalised ?, in which case loosing 200 hz may not be the most > sensible option ... As I understand it, there are not yet any formal Europe-wide proposals, just what individual regulators have allocated on a case-by-case basis. I think G, EI, and ON have all allocated 501 - 504. The DL beacons and OK0EMW are licenced to use spot frequencies around 505kHz. Gus SM6BHZ would be able to use 504.0 - 504.1kHz. But the main thing is whether we over here should transmit around 504kHz as we are now, or shift to near 501kHz to share a common WSPR segment with the US. On one hand, keeping to near 504k would have the advantage of no strong signals in band for those trying to receive US stations. But on the other hand, it might mean we get QRMed by "general comms" US stations for those trying to receive us, and anyone wanting to receive both US and EU stations would need two receivers/soundcards, etc. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU