Return-Path: Received: from rly-da01.mx.aol.com (rly-da01.mail.aol.com [172.19.129.75]) by air-da08.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDA084-a4a4aa421ea371; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:56:29 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-da01.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDA012-a4a4aa421ea371; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:56:11 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MkOlp-0003CC-Dt for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:55:33 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MkOlo-0003C3-QX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:55:32 +0100 Received: from imr-ma05.mx.aol.com ([64.12.100.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MkOkr-0007G7-EJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 21:54:34 +0100 Received: from imo-da04.mx.aol.com (imo-da04.mx.aol.com [205.188.169.202]) by imr-ma05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id n86KsjQT009220 for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:54:45 -0400 Received: from KKorn42@aol.com by imo-da04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v42.5.) id l.d00.5f8589f1 (45494) for ; Sun, 6 Sep 2009 16:54:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from KKneu (g227065008.adsl.alicedsl.de [92.227.65.8]) by cia-mc08.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMC081-b1b64aa42173111; Sun, 06 Sep 2009 16:54:12 -0400 From: "KKorn" To: Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 22:54:10 +0200 Message-ID: <1582BE19DDA24D27B7B34E9653FC4953@KKneu> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 In-Reply-To: X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 Importance: Normal X-Spam-Flag:NO X-AOL-SENDER: KKorn42@aol.com X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 3.4 (+++) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK=3.36 Subject: LF: AW: Re: 'JNT Beacon off Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Jim, Andy, LF Group, I am not in the position to put in anything re transmitting on 500kHz= myself but I would like to stronly support the position of Jim M0MBU.=20 WSPR is a vy interesting mode and its advantages of having an "automat= ic" background in logging and distributing the reception results is really fascinating.=20 And as John, F5VLF had put it just recently and as he urged us (the amateurs) to keep on experimenting: "...To cite just two examples of= this ingenuity (the ham's): transmitting loops seem to have been almost unk= nown to the old-time professionals, and some of the low data rate systems= we have been experimenting with would have been impracticable then. ...".=20 We have different modes now and different means to detect weak signals= and WSPR is definitely one mode in this group with new advantages! We are neither ships (exception DI2AM) nor do we have powerful transmi= tters with huge antennas beside the sea (maybe you guys in G-land have it an= d we just don't know it, hi!), so we still have a lot to find out. I am very greatful for all amateurs who make great personal efforts to provide beacons for the rest of us! 73 de Klaus DJ6LB ~~~ No trees were killed in the sending of this message, ~~~ ~~~ but a large number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced ~~~= =20