Return-Path: Received: from rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (rly-dc06.mail.aol.com [172.19.136.35]) by air-dc10.mail.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILINDC104-b254ab7b156323; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:01:30 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-dc06.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINDC061-b254ab7b156323; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:01:12 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1MpmFC-0005QD-SF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:00:06 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1MpmFC-0005Q4-F9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:00:06 +0100 Received: from ttsmtp-3.cpwnetworks.com ([62.24.128.244] helo=ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1MpmE1-0000xp-Ji for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:58:54 +0100 X-Path: TalkTalk-smtp X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApwEACpOt0pZ8I71/2dsb2JhbACETM14hBsF Received: from unknown (HELO mal769a60aa920) ([89.240.142.245]) by ttsmtp.cpwnetworks.com with SMTP; 21 Sep 2009 17:59:51 +0100 Message-ID: <00de01ca3adc$ef58a2a0$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> From: "mal hamilton" To: References: <1680319571.94273.1253539053273.JavaMail.mail@webmail06> <4AB7A335.32687.23E9727@dave.davesergeant.com> Date: Mon, 21 Sep 2009 17:59:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: defence of WSPR Signals Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 CASE WELL PRESENTED BY DAVE SERGEANT ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 5:00 PM Subject: LF: Re: defence of WSPR Signals > On 21 Sep 2009 at 13:17, Peter Cleall wrote: > >> I have always been interested in propagation. >> These WSPR signals are seen by some as repetitious rubbish. > > Well having spent a few days looking at WSPR I would tend to fit best > in the 'repetitious rubbish' group.... WSPR is specifically designed > for weak signal reception, and there is certainly a case of doing this > to catch openings to our friends in W and BY land. But at a local level > I don't think it serves much purpose - it is true that you can > automatically monitor propagation and QSB rates, but a 2 minute > sampling time is FAR too long to get any sensible figures from this. At > my QTH every signal I have copied has been perfectly readable by ear, > some by a very considerable margin. Once you have monitored for a few > hours there is little more to be gained and it is a painfully slow mode > to even consider as a QSO mode. > > The USA amateurs are fortunate in having a considerably wider band than > us. To have what is effective beacon transmissions there for long > periods in our 3kHz is not the best use of our space. > > I shall be very shortly re-configuring my vertical back to its Top Band > mode for the winter season. If the future of 500kHz lies only in WSPR > beaconing it is a sad life being an amateur and I have far more useful > things to do on the other bands. > > 73 Dave G3YMC > > http://www.davesergeant.com > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.111/2386 - Release Date: 09/21/09 05:51:00