Return-Path: Received: from rly-mc10.mx.aol.com (rly-mc10.mail.aol.com [172.21.164.94]) by air-mc01.mail.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILINMC014-d9a4a96f4762ec; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:03:10 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mc10.mx.aol.com (v124.15) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMC102-d9a4a96f4762ec; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 17:02:48 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Mgm6J-0002BV-18 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:01:43 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Mgm6I-0002BM-Ft for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:01:42 +0100 Received: from mail-fx0-f206.google.com ([209.85.220.206]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Mgm5T-0007L1-AN for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:00:52 +0100 Received: by fxm2 with SMTP id 2so1367592fxm.4 for ; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:01:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:in-reply-to:references :date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=5yrXpDobV2mBPvXwDQop5YUk3XhUYlvkrQcvHP+X6+4=; b=G3uB+nIzcyyRY9oFgXspuCZJXN2/XXBmZzOtCkW5GeddV6d21cEm+2RAWbqvbw/jfc CKR2kaQpuV9QxFv4/2YwaNW5GmdmWJlBLrFn6XI7+OUREuTZs/1lEAofME4btElMARbB e9YslzhSQhTV8TlTdjFPgUrgTlTyIehuqHQLA= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=U/6vQEaVqAMsffF07T9gvDt/nvtWzFM3Fg+FsU5FwPMa8aTGkgke7nccPPRh0Nxtem EidNAcBgX0/UraDd3xqE5u8aYffjabp9az8J+bZXjz2Lw/EKOexftfQNFAv3whY3vI43 b3eW1uY4m1dvCzRGb70+apgBPAUHaRR2wzzuQ= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.204.154.84 with SMTP id n20mr126768bkw.146.1251406889383; Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:01:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <847F3A04E31C413A81AD022BDC11AD46@JimPC> References: <9afca2640908261406r3ced27fr31bbca942848a291@mail.gmail.com> <005701ca2707$438a4570$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640908270502q3136dd1cjf52d2666eedeed94@mail.gmail.com> <009c01ca2731$2d5e0e60$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> <9afca2640908271133v7eea7f18r7855a822514399a4@mail.gmail.com> <847F3A04E31C413A81AD022BDC11AD46@JimPC> Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2009 22:01:29 +0100 Message-ID: <9afca2640908271401v4c58bff8ie0235cce63fc48ee@mail.gmail.com> From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Karma: unknown: DomainKey-Status: good (testing) X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001 Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0015175d0a2a1c78c1047225df95 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d223.2 ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --0015175d0a2a1c78c1047225df95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Hi Jim, Thanks for this. Well, I really do understand Mal's position - we're all entitled to express our individual views (and thank goodness too) - but I have been totally "blown away" by WSPR on HF/VHF and feel I'm becoming a bit of a "WSPR evangelist", so I apologise if this is coming on a bit too strong, HI. Certainly if you plan to TX any WSPR in the coming weeks on 136 or 500kHz then do please let me know where and when and I'll be listening and reporting. Looking forward to hearing some WSPR on the LF bands. Best 73s to all here - it's a nice and busy group Roger G3XBM 2009/8/27 James Moritz > Dear Roger, LF Group, > > Please bear in mind that G3KEV does not speak for "us guys", only himself. > Over the years we have learned to ignore him most of the time - if we took > much notice, we would all have given up a long time ago. > > If you look in the WSPR on-line database specifying the band as "LF/VLF", > you will see that there has been quite a lot of WSPR activity over the last > year on 136k and 500k, which has been one of the more successful digital > modes in this part of the spectrum. The points you make regarding narrow > bandwidth and low power are certainly useful at LF/MF. The summer months are > usually rather lacking in activity due to the short nights and high QRN, but > activity, no doubt including WSPR, will be picking up soon as we get into > autumn. > > The M0BMU LF/MF station is currently QRT due to a recent visit from > relatives - all those pretty coloured wires and 3-year-olds don't really > mix! It will probably be put back together this weekend though, so if you > are interested in trying WSPR on 136k or 500k, let me know. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lapthorn" < > rogerlapthorn@gmail.com> > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:33 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency? > > > ...But it's *not* my place to tell you guys how to use the LF bands so with > > this, I'll leave you to it and get back on 10m WSPR, CW and SSB. Good >> luck >> with whatever modes you enjoy. >> >> Roger >> 73s >> G3XBM >> > > > -- ------------------------------------------------------------- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk G3XBM GQRP 1678 ISWL G11088 --0015175d0a2a1c78c1047225df95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Jim,

Thanks for this.

Well, I really do understand Mal&= #39;s position - we're all entitled to express our individual views (a= nd thank goodness too) - but I have been totally=A0 "blown away"= by WSPR on HF/VHF and feel I'm becoming a bit of a "WSPR evangel= ist", so I apologise if this is coming on a bit too strong, HI.

Certainly if you plan to TX any WSPR in the coming weeks on 136 or 500= kHz then do please let me know where and when and I'll be listening an= d reporting. Looking forward to hearing some WSPR on the LF bands.

Best 73s to all here - it's a nice and busy group

Roger
G3XB= M


2009/8/27 James Moritz <james.moritz@= btopenworld.com>
Dear Roger, LF= Group,

Please bear in mind that G3KEV does not speak for "us guys", onl= y himself. Over the years we have learned to ignore him most of the time= - if we took much notice, we would all have given up a long time ago.

If you look in the WSPR on-line database specifying the band as "LF/V= LF", you will see that there has been quite a lot of WSPR activity ov= er the last year on 136k and 500k, which has been one of the more successf= ul digital modes in this part of the spectrum. The points you make regardi= ng narrow bandwidth and low power are certainly useful at LF/MF. The summe= r months are usually rather lacking in activity due to the short nights an= d high QRN, but activity, no doubt including WSPR, will be picking up soon= as we get into autumn.

The M0BMU LF/MF station is currently QRT due to a recent visit from relati= ves - all those pretty coloured wires and 3-year-olds don't really mix= ! It will probably be put back together this weekend though, so if you are= interested in trying WSPR on 136k or 500k, let me know.

Cheers, Jim Moritz
73 de M0BMU

----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Lapthorn" <rogerlapthorn@gmail.= com>

To: <= rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 7:33 PM

Subject: Re: LF: Re: 137kHz WSPR - what frequency?


...But it's *not* my place to tell you guys how to use the LF bands so= with

this, I'll leave you to it and get back on 10m WSPR, CW and SSB. =A0Go= od luck
with whatever modes you enjoy.

Roger
73s
G3XBM





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